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Taudisio

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This might be a topic for another thread, but there several posts about prism sights. I don't have any experience with them but - why? The swfa 2-10 ultralight weighs half a much as the primary arms 5x one mentioned earlier, and has variable zoom.

How far out are you guys shooting with only 3 or 5x magnification? I only hunt eastern whitetails and every deer I've killed has been under 100yds but ive always wanted at least 9x or better on a scope

along because maybe i need to shift my mindset? What do i not know that i don't know lol
Go back and read the thread. I’ve shot my 5x prism out to 750 yards. The Swfa is 9.5oz not including your rings. Primary arms 5x is 8.5oz. I don’t know where you got your numbers from.

I have videos posted on here of my shooting at 600 yards. Below is a 4 shot group at 300 yards. That video is also posted earlier in the thread. Loaded/suppressed rifle weighs under 5 pounds.IMG_4012.jpeg
 
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This might be a topic for another thread, but there several posts about prism sights. I don't have any experience with them but - why? The swfa 2-10 ultralight weighs half a much as the primary arms 5x one mentioned earlier, and has variable zoom.

How far out are you guys shooting with only 3 or 5x magnification? I only hunt eastern whitetails and every deer I've killed has been under 100yds but ive always wanted at least 9x or better on a scope

along because maybe i need to shift my mindset? What do i not know that i don't know lol
I have an SWFA 2.5-10. It's okay, but personally I'm not crazy about it. It's not lighter than the Primary 5x Micro Prism and for me, at the ranges I shoot, 10x is probably more magnification than needed, but that's the power where the BDC is calibrated for. I've shot lots of animals out near 300 yards with my 2-7s left on 2x so the Primary 5x would be more than enough magnification for about any shots I've made, probably the 3x as well for that matter.
 

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I have an SWFA 2.5-10. It's okay, but personally I'm not crazy about it. It's not lighter than the Primary 5x Micro Prism and for me, at the ranges I shoot, 10x is probably more magnification than needed, but that's the power where the BDC is calibrated for. I've shot lots of animals out near 300 yards with my 2-7s left on 2x so the Primary 5x would be more than enough magnification for about any shots I've made, probably the 3x as well for that matter.

In your estimation how much would a 2moa red dot inhibit your effective range and what range would that be?
 

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Go back and read the thread. I’ve shot my 5x prism out to 750 yards. The Swfa is 9.5oz not including your rings. Primary arms 5x is 8.5oz. I don’t know where you got your numbers from.

I have videos posted on here of my shooting at 600 yards. Below is a 4 shot group at 300 yards. That video is also posted earlier in the thread. Loaded/suppressed rifle weighs under 5 pounds.View attachment 791934
Yes sir, i saw that-Dang good shooting! Ill go back and look for the video. Good point about the rings.

Not trying to be contrary here, asking to learn.

Here is where i got the weight- maybe im looking at the wrong one. An 8.5oz version would be awesome, ill dig around some more.


Edit- i found the lighter one. Here is link if anyone else needs it
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In your estimation how much would a 2moa red dot inhibit your effective range and what range would that be?
I don't have a ton of experience with red dots, but I'd think 150ish would be reasonable. That's me thinking I've made shots out to 280ish on 2x pretty easily. 1/2 the magnification and half the distance sounds reasonable.

And to add: If 150 -is- an upper limit, maybe 200, that would be cutting my range about in half.
 
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Yes sir, i saw that-Dang good shooting! Ill go back and look for the video. Good point about the rings.

Not trying to be contrary here, asking to learn.

Here is where i got the weight- maybe im looking at the wrong one. An 8.5oz version would be awesome, ill dig around some more.


Edit- i found the lighter one. Here is link if anyone else needs it
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This is what Taudisio is referring to:

 

Taudisio

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IMG_4242.jpegI have shared this buck around on other threads, but I don’t think I shared it here. I absolutely love the ULUL configuration. The weight of the rifle and comfort while walking around with it still blows my mind. I just need to dial in a load with a bit more penetration for next year. Clearly the 87gr vmax works, I just want some more exit holes.
 

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View attachment 791957I have shared this buck around on other threads, but I don’t think I shared it here. I absolutely love the ULUL configuration. The weight of the rifle and comfort while walking around with it still blows my mind. I just need to dial in a load with a bit more penetration for next year. Clearly the 87gr vmax works, I just want some more exit holes.
What caliber is that?
 
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In your estimation how much would a 2moa red dot inhibit your effective range and what range would that be?
I used a 2 moa red dot on my muzzleloader this year. I was comfortable out to 200 yards in ideal conditions and killed a buck at 150. My buddy was getting consistent hits out to 300 yards on a 12”x24” target, but he passed up a shot at roughly 300 because the deer felt so small at that range with no magnification. He ended up killing that buck at 150 yards the next day.

Edit: At those ranges, I would definitely go for more magnification if it was allowed in my area.
 

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Hard to tell by reading the description-- is the mount in the pics included in that price?
There are about 7 different mounts in the box for whatever configuration you could want. I believe the weight primary arms posted is with the standard mount installed, I never weighed mine though. There is a photo of one on a scale in This review.
 

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This might be a topic for another thread, but there several posts about prism sights. I don't have any experience with them but - why? The swfa 2-10 ultralight weighs half a much as the primary arms 5x one mentioned earlier, and has variable zoom.

How far out are you guys shooting with only 3 or 5x magnification? I only hunt eastern whitetails and every deer I've killed has been under 100yds but ive always wanted at least 9x or better on a scope

along because maybe i need to shift my mindset? What do i not know that i don't know lol
I tried the SWFA UL on multiple rifles. I just could never get comfortable shooting it. The zoom isn't useful past 7 or 8, so the BDC is only useful at 5x. At that magnification, you might as well go prism.
 
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