Ultra 7/nomad ti xc/etc. IS there any material difference?

[Macintosh]

2024 bonus in hand, likely going to finally get my first suppressor. Looking at 30 caliber centerfire cans for hunting and range (prs type on bolt guns), biggest cartridge theyd go on is 270win/3006 with most use in standard short action stuff like 6.5cm or 308-based. I think I want direct thread (?), and this’ll be my only centerfire can (unless I get my Christmas wish and they get delisted from the NFA). Ive had paralysis on this in the past, so my plan is to narrow down to 2 or three best options, then buy whichever is available/easiest on my budget.
I’d love a super small can, but really would like a hearing-safe one, so unless Im mistaken 5” cans are off the table(?). Reading all of the various threads on the topic—there are lots—it seems the Ultra 7 is sort of the industry benchmark in this category (smallest hearing-safe can with good reputation at about 7” and about 10oz total). Nomad ti xc comes up a lot. Hyperion K seems about the same but appears to be 40+% more expensive. Then there's an AB Raptor...can you get a flush AND reflex mount so you in essence have a 4" can for hunting and a 6 or 8" can for the range? It's pretty easy to overanalyze for me, and with no way to try or use any I'm flying 100% blind.

*what other cans are +\- identical to these in size, weight and performance?
*are there service issues with any of these companies to be aware of?
*is my impression correct that I can basically flip a coin and get more or less the same function from any of these? They seem so close in size and performance that its not worth differentiating on function. Is that correct? If not, what exactly is better about one or the other?

 

[BigDog00]

I just submitted for a Liberty Precision Machine Mach S. My short list was the Mach S, AB Raptor 8, DD Sti, Scythe, and the Nomad Ti XC.

Check out the Mach S, it meets your criteria and gets some great reviews.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Get the banish meateater silencer, it’s the best silencer available right now.

 

[hereinaz]

Just pick one. You won’t be unhappy with any of them.

They are kinda like your first kid, you fall in love with the one you get. And, just like children you can have more than one and still love them all.

Once you shoot it, you will love your choice. I love all my suppressors.

 

[Macintosh]

Get the banish meateater silencer, it’s the best silencer available right now.

I'm fairly certain in one of the dozenish threads I just perused you were laughing at some dude who bought one. You messing with me? I mean, not that I dont deserve to be messed with, but if you are we have to fight.

Post in thread 'Banish backcountry review'

Yesterday at 4:22 PM

I have one, and thought it performed as advertised on my 7PRC. Short, lightweight, and could shoot it all day without ear pro. Definitely tames and slows the recoil impulse down a good bit.

That said, it now lives on my 6.5CM and I purchased the new Meateater can. I put my 7PRC into a MDT HNT26, so with the lower weight, I wanted a bit more recoil reduction. The extra ounce or two and extra 1/4" of the Meateater were worth the trade off to me. Havent shot with the Meateater yet (or with the new MDT HNT26).

Here is a good comprehensive shootout with actual data for a lot of the...

• thinhorn_AK

 

[Jmedin]

I have a liberty precision machine s and a cat odb. I’ll more than likely get another mach s

 

[hereinaz]

See above^^^^ people love the suppressor they buy and recommend it. That is one of the problems with these recommendations.

I have an Ultra 7, it was my second child… I love it and it’s great.

But, nothing I say about its specs will help you make this decision. You have TOO MUCH information and opinions.

Just pick one randomly.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I'm fairly certain in one of the dozenish threads I just perused you were laughing at some dude who bought one. You messing with me? I mean, not that I dont deserve to be messed with, but if you are we have to fight.

Post in thread 'Banish backcountry review'

Yesterday at 4:22 PM

I have one, and thought it performed as advertised on my 7PRC. Short, lightweight, and could shoot it all day without ear pro. Definitely tames and slows the recoil impulse down a good bit.

That said, it now lives on my 6.5CM and I purchased the new Meateater can. I put my 7PRC into a MDT HNT26, so with the lower weight, I wanted a bit more recoil reduction. The extra ounce or two and extra 1/4" of the Meateater were worth the trade off to me. Havent shot with the Meateater yet (or with the new MDT HNT26).

Here is a good comprehensive shootout with actual data for a lot of the...

• thinhorn_AK

I’m 100% messing with you. Don’t get the meateater, I’m pretty sure that guy I was laughing at is the only person to buy one.

Get a TBAC ultra 7.

 

[Macintosh]

@hereinaz yes, I am fully ignoring posts of "just get...." until I see a significant pattern of recommendations...I know it's inevitable. Barring really specific fact-based feedback with rationale illustrated, models that get consistently recommended by more than 8 or 10 people AND are short/light will make a short list, and then I'll pick based on company service recommendations and price, availability. But thank you for answering the question, I'm hearing you confirm my approach of "just get one of the short list ones and you'll be happy"

 

[Macintosh]

I’m 100% messing with you. Don’t get the meateater, I’m pretty sure that guy I was laughing at is the only person to buy one.

Get a TBAC ultra 7.

OK, dammit, this means war. Or something.

 

[wyosam]

2024 bonus in hand, likely going to finally get my first suppressor. Looking at 30 caliber centerfire cans for hunting and range (prs type on bolt guns), biggest cartridge theyd go on is 270win/3006 with most use in standard short action stuff like 6.5cm or 308-based. I think I want direct thread (?), and this’ll be my only centerfire can (unless I get my Christmas wish and they get delisted from the NFA). Ive had paralysis on this in the past, so my plan is to narrow down to 2 or three best options, then buy whichever is available/easiest on my budget.
I’d love a super small can, but really would like a hearing-safe one, so unless Im mistaken 5” cans are off the table(?). Reading all of the various threads on the topic—there are lots—it seems the Ultra 7 is sort of the industry benchmark in this category (smallest hearing-safe can with good reputation at about 7” and about 10oz total). Nomad ti xc comes up a lot. Hyperion K seems about the same but appears to be 40+% more expensive. Then there's an AB Raptor...can you get a flush AND reflex mount so you in essence have a 4" can for hunting and a 6 or 8" can for the range? It's pretty easy to overanalyze for me, and with no way to try or use any I'm flying 100% blind.

*what other cans are +\- identical to these in size, weight and performance?
*are there service issues with any of these companies to be aware of?
*is my impression correct that I can basically flip a coin and get more or less the same function from any of these? They seem so close in size and performance that its not worth differentiating on function. Is that correct? If not, what exactly is better about one or the other?

Yes, the Raptor comes with both mounts. To add to the “the one I bought is the best” reviews, I think the Raptor is a great option. I have a .30 R6 that is fantastic, and waiting on a back ordered .338 R8.


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[WeiserBucks]

Of those that have been mentioned, I have a couple TBAC and have nothing but great things to say about em.

 

[Macintosh]

Yes, the Raptor comes with both mounts. To add to the “the one I bought is the best” reviews, I think the Raptor is a great option. I have a .30 R6 that is fantastic, and waiting on a back ordered .338 R8.


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I see @Ryan Avery really likes the raptor 8. I'd likely be looking at the 6 though. Curious if either of you has used the 6 and the cans I mentioned above and can compare? Also, anyone use the raptor 4 + a larger reflex, and can compare that setup to the ultra7 and others in the category? This thread seems to suggest that the reflex doesnt add much sound reduction. If it did, something like a 4" can for hunting (not hearing safe, but much lighter/still lots of reduction for 1-2 shots) and a 4"-ish reflex for the range to get to hearing safe....that would seem like having 2 cans in one, is that a thing? Or is that simply not viable in reality?
I dont see much love for these cans, but when I do it's often from someone who has used lots of different suppressors...having a hard time telling what is because they look like sex-toys, and what is becasue it's just not as effective as it seems on the surface?

 

[littlebigtine]

Magnus s

 

[Lawnboi]

I may be biased. But

I have 2 ultra 7s and don’t regret buying either one.

 

[Jmedin]

Look at the pew science reviews. If you look on cancontrast.com you can compare length and weight

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I may be biased. But

I have 2 ultra 7s and don’t regret buying either one.

Same, I have 3 30 caliber silencers, one of them is a TBAC, I wish the other 2 were TBACs as well.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Get a TBAC ultra 7.

Hard to find one right now

 

[hereinaz]

@hereinaz yes, I am fully ignoring posts of "just get...." until I see a significant pattern of recommendations...I know it's inevitable. Barring really specific fact-based feedback with rationale illustrated, models that get consistently recommended by more than 8 or 10 people AND are short/light will make a short list, and then I'll pick based on company service recommendations and price, availability. But thank you for answering the question, I'm hearing you confirm my approach of "just get one of the short list ones and you'll be happy"

Once you get to the cream of the crop, which you have, the differences are so small that the differences are inconsequential, except for the feature sets.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Hard to find one right now

Have they ever been "Easy" to find??? I got mine ~ a year and a half ago, I remember it taking awhile to get my name on one.