UL fuel efficient cook system

[Eastman528]

Why not just cook inside, under the vestibule or whatever but, the whole wind issue is very easy to eliminate and I don’t really see any downside risks to it. I’ve never even considered cooking outside, unless it’s a perfect evening or something, and I just wanna be out there cooking.


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Hard to cook inside a bivy sack but yes, I do when possible/necessary more so in the late season when it gets dark out early but then I usually pack my Jetboil Zip or use the wood stove and don't pack a stove cuz I am not in a hurry and its less to pack.
To be more specific even when I have a tent/tarp I am often heating water up at a glassing point in the wind breakfast/coffee in the morning or dinner particularly during early season I have found for me personally I would rather eat while glassing then after dark when I am bedded down, I am weird but I sleep better and I am sitting there anyways. If I am on the go then that's different.
This is why gear is so subjective, depends so much on personal preferences and hunting style which can change by the hunt. I am assuming based on your location your situation is completely different so that makes sense you wouldn't be doing that much.
I will say depending on shelter that little BRS is so sensitive you even notice it in a floorless trekking pole type shelter in the wind like a silex etc. but ya its never been a deal breaker. I have managed a 10 day high country mule deer hunt doing breakfast, coffee and dinner on one 100g fuel canister but that was pushing it.

 

[Sponge]

question,
has anyone applied the carbon felt & vet wrap suppressor cover concept to cook pots as an alternative to coozies?
My initial concern would be bits of carbon fiber in my food, but aside from that any thoughts?

edit - ordered some. I will make a cover of some sort, test, and report back.

 

[35WhelenAI]

No fault of the BRS stove, my use involves pots of a liter or a liter and a half. The Windmaster with the four prong handles that easy and I don't need to worry about making a wind break, I have it built in with the stove and pot.

 

[Hatchet]

35WhelenAI you should start your own thread about why you don’t like the BRS.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Did you not see I said no fault of the stove, I prefer larger pots so I don't prefer the BRS stove in my ultra light setup. Ultralight for one guy is different than ultra light when there's two or three guys in the group. Appreciate the thoughts.

 

[Hatchet]

Did you not see I said no fault of the stove, I prefer larger pots so I don't prefer the BRS stove in my ultra light setup. Ultralight for one guy is different than ultra light when there's two or three guys in the group. Appreciate the thoughts.

I made that comment because you didn’t start this thread but you sure have a lot to say for not being a BRS guy. Nothing against you but it just seems like don’t really care about ultralight which was the whole point of why this thread started.

 

[35WhelenAI]

I have the BRS stove. I'm looking forward to using it on a trip later this summer and comparing it directly. However, observations are observations and I'll sacrifice an ounce and a half for a unit that is better constructed, has better built-in wind protection, pressure regular, and something to hold a pot bigger than 750 ml. All performance aside, ultra light doesn't have to do with solo. A handful of ounces more, two or three people are well served and I've said that too.

The thread started in 2021, have you read all 440+ posts since you joined last year? Plenty of comparisons and preferences for other stoves. You are seeing what's going on right now. I appreciate your thoughts, call things like you see them and be straight shooting.

 

[Hatchet]

I have the BRS stove. I'm looking forward to using it on a trip later this summer and comparing it directly. However, observations are observations and I'll sacrifice an ounce and a half for a unit that is better constructed, all performance aside and I've said that.

The thread started in 2021, have you read all 440+ posts since you joined last year? Plenty of comparisons and preferences for other stoves. You are seeing what's going on right now.

I have not read them all but going back quite a few posts it seems like you’ve posted 90% of them
You’re probably right though. I’m just an idiot that joined last year.

 

[35WhelenAI]

You're going in the weeds now, I didn't start posting till fairly recently as I've tested different pots and compared stoves. You said those words not me.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

It’s a stove gents.
Get a room!

 

[Hatchet]

Ran some tests last night and I’d be interested to hear your thoughts.

I did a bunch of boils using MSR isofuel and jetboil fuel

The jetboil fuel seems to consistently get you to boil with 1-2 grams less fuel than the MSR iso fuel.

 

[35WhelenAI]

To my knowledge from a quick search, Jetboil uses 75% isobutane/25% propane approx. MSR uses 80% isobutane/20% propane. They both have about the same BTU's, maybe some type of pressure difference within the canisters because of the slightly different mix, given propane is typically providing more pressure relative to isobutane?

 

[35WhelenAI]

I'll spending some time in the next couple weeks around 10,000 ft, taking the Windmaster and BRS. Pots will be the FM G2 and FM Ramen pot. Taking drug dealer scale, lol, to measure fuel burn and time boil at wide open and lower outputs.

 

[JoeK]

I’ll be interested in these results. Could you share the weight on the G2 pot when you have a chance? I saw over 9oz on one apec and didn’t quite believe it would be that heavy.
Ramen pot is 6.6oz, jetboil stash pot is 5.5oz.

I picked up the ramen pot hoping for a better fit on the Windmaster triflex but it doesn’t feel so secure. Fits great on the standard 4prong stand though. I had to jimmy a slot on the stash pot to fit the little retention clip of the triflex and it’s still a PITA to get the pot on/off. Fit is secure so I may just grindnof a mm from one or two of the triflex feet and see if that makes the stash pot work OK

 

[35WhelenAI]

Results:
-Soto Windmaster 4 flex and BRS3000T
-9,500' elev 70 deg temp. Very warm for that elevation.
-Protected from major breeze in general.
-BRS300BRS would definitely change its tone when a puff of wind would hit it, which was not often. Soto was unaffected in its sound.
-Lids not used.

Pot weights w/lid: G2 6.67 oz, Ramen pot 6.74 Oz.

Ramen pot: 1/2 qt boil.
Each stove 1/2 turn back from max:

Soto 4 flex: 2:14 boil, 4.68 g fuel.
BRS3000T: 1:49 boil 5.51g fuel

-Obviously one half turn back on the Soto is not one half turn back on the BRS. BRS still sounded wide open but I stuck with the half turn anyway.
-BRS pot supports very narrow, would not engage in the three prong cut out on the Ramen pot. Definitely not the pot for the BRS. Soto 4 flex support fit perfectly into the 4 prong slots and was very secure.

Test 2: Ramen pot, wide open throttle both stoves, 2 boils cooling the pot down between and refilling with same temp water. Measured beginning weight before the first boil, ending weight after the second boil for the total burn leaving stoves attached.

Soto 4 Flex:
1st boil 1:24, 2nd boil 1:27
8.9 g fuel used.

BRS3000T:
1st boil 1:17, 2nd boil 1:25
9.7 g fuel used.

G2 pot: 1/2 qt boil, wide open throttle both stoves: one boil each.

Soto 4 Flex:
1:29 boil
4.89 g fuel used

BRS3000T:
1:24 boil
5.03 g fuel used

BRS three prong support engaged the G2 slots and was stable, however the G2 pot had to sit on top of the Soto 4 Flex supports as the G2 pot does not come with 4 Flex cutouts like the Ramen pot does.

G2 is the pot for the BRS stove, the pot is not so wide as the three pot prong support on the BRS can actually engage the slots on the pot. Ramen pot better suited for Soto unless one purchases the three prong support for the Soto. As you can tell, I do not have the three prong support for the soto. May consider picking it up.