Ukranian Sniper - 13,000ft kill shot - New World Recrord

[ThorM465]

nope, it was a Russian soldier invading a country he shouldnt be in. Nothing said about it that i can imagine. Would you be sad if the russian troop was here in the US?

Then you must of been one of those patriots celebrating the death of our troops in Iraq? Like it or not, Russia has more justification for their invasion of Ukraine than we did in our invasion of Iraq.
If China was doing in Canada, Cuba, or Mexico what we were doing in Ukraine, I'd support an invasion of US Troops and we'd be justified in doing so.

 

[Pacific_Fork]

Can you link the thread?

I’ve seen some videos of guys using the thermal drones for finding dead deer, not entirely opposed to that.

Thread 'Thermal Drones???'

Apr 10, 2025

I have really enjoyed watching the thermal drone deer recoveries on YT. I am a proficient tracker, and believe that tracking and recoveries to be a strong suit of my hunting, but I can definitely see the benefit of a thermal drone for those poor hit scenarios.

Has anyone on here bought one? Looking at them online it looks like there are a ton of different options and price points out there, from $3k to $30k. Just wondering if any guys here have bought or used one and what your suggestions would be.....

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The mind games or justifications you must have to play in order to be in favor of drones in any aspect to hunting…if someone invests that much money because their confidence of finding the deer they shoot year after year is so low they need a robot in the sky, man, I'm speechless.

End of derailing this thread for me. Carry on!

 

[Blowdowner]

Then you must of been one of those patriots celebrating the death of our troops in Iraq? Like it or not, Russia has more justification for their invasion of Ukraine than we did in our invasion of Iraq.
If China was doing in Canada, Cuba, or Mexico what we were doing in Ukraine, I'd support an invasion of US Troops and we'd be justified in doing so.

I understand what you're saying. And I've heard about Victoria Nuland from our government demanding regime changes and dictating who gets installed as figurehead of Ukraine. But I don't think Russia's justifications are based on geographical proximity or historical tradition. There's no real countries anymore. There's no real presidents or prime ministers. There hasn't been for over 200 years. If a conflict is stirred up it's orchestrated for business or real estate purposes and both sides' leaders are guilty of leading their men to slaughter. The only time there's a real war is when an overwhelmingly powerful country destroys a much weaker one. Then the weak side is usually legitimately fighting for their homeland or traditional life to continue. It's all business and this sniper story is straight out of the advertising department. Like the ghost of Kiev. Not saying it isn't true but we shouldn't be talking about it only condemning the entire fight.

 

[KHNC]

Then you must of been one of those patriots celebrating the death of our troops in Iraq? Like it or not, Russia has more justification for their invasion of Ukraine than we did in our invasion of Iraq.
If China was doing in Canada, Cuba, or Mexico what we were doing in Ukraine, I'd support an invasion of US Troops and we'd be justified in doing so.

So , because idgaf about a russian soldier, you dont think i care about US troops? Of course i do, I served with quite a few of them.

 

[ThorM465]

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So , because idgaf about a russian soldier, you dont think i care about US troops? Of course i do, I served with quite a few of them.

Because according to your logic "soldier invading a country he shouldnt be in. Nothing said about it that i can imagine" there's nothing sad (I think that's what you meant) about my brothers we lost in Iraq.

 

[Danny Hoey]

AI assisted.

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[grfox92]

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No thanks.

They must not know about the 77 TMK.

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[Turkeytider]

They must not know about the 77 TMK.

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Amen !

 

[Poser]

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Because according to your logic "soldier invading a country he shouldnt be in. Nothing said about it that i can imagine" there's nothing sad (I think that's what you meant) about my brothers we lost in Iraq.

Let's reframe it with more of a geo political lens: One of many invading soldiers of both Russian and North Korean origin, spurs the single largest human migration in recorded history, purposefully targets, tortures, rapes and kills civilians, traffics children for nefarious purposes, levels entire cities, wastes away over 1 million of its own casualties to now hold less than 20% of the country it seeks to occupy, has aspirations for additional expansionism throughout the region.... and all of that to potentially be acting as little more than a proxy for Chinese global dominance.

More rounds down range = less of all the above.

 

[Billy Goat]

They must not know about the 77 TMK.

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Imagine 600 gr TMK tho.

Leave an elephant trunk, tail, and maybe tusks behind.

Turn the rest of the mack truck into a mist

 

[ThorM465]

Let's reframe it with more of a geo political lens: One of many invading soldiers of both Russian and North Korean origin, spurs the single largest human migration in recorded history, purposefully targets, tortures, rapes and kills civilians, traffics children for nefarious purposes, levels entire cities, wastes away over 1 million of its own casualties to now hold less than 20% of the country it seeks to occupy, has aspirations for additional expansionism throughout the region.... and all of that to potentially be acting as little more than a proxy for Chinese global dominance.

More rounds down range = less of all the above.

I have no interest in propaganda lens that try to subvert reality. Most estimates put the resulting deaths from our invasion of Iraq at over 1 million. I'm not here to condemn our nation, Old Glory flies proudly own my property. It's simply that perspective is important.

And there's the fact that Ukraine has been castrating their POWs, so save the Russians are torturing, raping, and killing civillians so we must get involved nonsense. Any evidence of this has been extremely shaky at best.

Had NATO not starting pushing into Ukraine, this war never happens. Had NATO not supported Ukraine post Chrimea, Russia would have taken control of the nation in a matter of weeks with 1% of 1% of the death and destruction that we've seen. Over 1 million slavic men would be alive today. AND the life of the average Ukranian would be not different than it was pre invasion.

I sincerely can not understand the mind that could still believe that "Russia's aspirations for additional expansionism" could be any threat to NATO nations after x years of this meat grinder in Ukraine.

 

[Poser]

I have no interest in propaganda lens that try to subvert reality. Most estimates put the resulting deaths from our invasion of Iraq at over 1 million. I'm not here to condemn our nation, Old Glory flies proudly own my property. It's simply that perspective is important.

Whataboutism. The mistakes/wrongdoings of one nation do not grant another nation a license to commit its own mistakes/wrongdoings/savagery. Why do you keep coming back to this comparison? The core issue in Ukraine is very different from Iraq and Russia's full-scale invasion is the direct cause of the present suffering, regardless of any historical comparisons or previous inflicted suffering.

And there's the fact that Ukraine has been castrating their POWs, so save the Russians are torturing, raping, and killing civillians so we must get involved nonsense. Any evidence of this has been extremely shaky at best.

Incorrect. There is ovverwhelming evidence of Russian war crimes: The UN, Human Rights Monitoring Mission, the ICC, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International have all documented widespread and systematic Russian war crimes.
Want an example? The Bucha Massacre: hundreds of civilians were found executed, which was verified by satellite imagery as well on-the-ground investigators.

Satellite imagery available here: https://www.bbc.com/news/60981238

Regarding Ukrainian POWs, there have been isolated and, yes, disturbing videos alleging Ukrainian misconduct, though these have not been verified as a systematic policy and there is nothing to suggest that it is systematic. The difference here is the scale and systemic nature of the Russia's crimes vs. isolated examples out of Ukraine.

Had NATO not starting pushing into Ukraine, this war never happens. Had NATO not supported Ukraine post Chrimea, Russia would have taken control of the nation in a matter of weeks with 1% of 1% of the death and destruction that we've seen. Over 1 million slavic men would be alive today. AND the life of the average Ukranian would be not different than it was pre invasion.

I sincerely can not understand the mind that could still believe that "Russia's aspirations for additional expansionism" could be any threat to NATO nations after x years of this meat grinder in Ukraine.

NATO did not "push into" Ukraine. Ukraine, as a sovereign nation chose to apply for membership to protect themselves. The Crimea invasion triggered US and European forces training Ukrainian forces at the request of the Ukrainians. Let's not confuse "helping at the request of" with "pushing". Look at the history of Russian and Soviet aggression: Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia all joined NATO to guarantee their security. Then came the longtime holdouts Finland and Sweden. See a trend here?

And the idea that life would be "unchanged" under Russian control is contradicted by the reality in Russian-occupied territories and yours is a dangerously naive position to take given the historical context. Merely look at Russia's long history of aggression: they roll on an entire country and then subjugate that population to be the vanguard in their next acquisition. If Russia had successfully swept Ukraine, Ukrainians would be forced into action into Moldova ,rinse, repeat and on to the next. This is what Russia does, history demonstrates that this is what they have always done.

 

[ThorM465]

Whataboutism. The mistakes/wrongdoings of one nation do not grant another nation a license to commit its own mistakes/wrongdoings/savagery. Why do you keep coming back to this comparison?

If you want to fix the world, start by cleaning your own room. You can't be the arbiter or morality while sleeping with your best friend's wife. I don't understand the ignorance and audacity of people to condemn other nations for doing the vary thing they praised our nation for doing.

The core issue in Ukraine is very different from Iraq and Russia's full-scale invasion is the direct cause of the present suffering, regardless of any historical comparisons or previous inflicted suffering.

I agree. Russia can justify their actions as being in the best interest of the security of sovereign Russian soil. How exactly do you think it's different?

Incorrect. There is ovverwhelming evidence of Russian war crimes: The UN, Human Rights Monitoring Mission, the ICC, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International have all documented widespread and systematic Russian war crimes.

You mean the organizations with a long and storied history of corruption and perjury.

Want an example? The Bucha Massacre: hundreds of civilians were found executed, which was verified by satellite imagery as well on-the-ground investigators.

Satellite imagery available here: https://www.bbc.com/news/60981238

Great example! The Russian propaganda is presented this as a result of the Ukrainians slaughtering "Russian sympathizers" when they moved back in. I'm not telling which one is correct. I'm telling you there's equally valid evidence for both stories. Why should I believe the version from the same actors who gave us the Ghost of Kyiv?

Regarding Ukrainian POWs, there have been isolated and, yes, disturbing videos alleging Ukrainian misconduct, though these have not been verified as a systematic policy and there is nothing to suggest that it is systematic. The difference here is the scale and systemic nature of the Russia's crimes vs. isolated examples out of Ukraine.

The numerous victims in the Russian military hospitals would say otherwise. Let me make sure I understand this. You believe that these horrific acts that happened early in the war magically just stopped? You don't think Russia retaliated? You don't think Ukraine retaliated to that and so on? This is a culture with a history of horrifying torture practices going back thousands of years.

NATO did not "push into" Ukraine. Ukraine, as a sovereign nation chose to apply for membership to protect themselves. The Crimea invasion triggered US and European forces training Ukrainian forces at the request of the Ukrainians. Let's not confuse "helping at the request of" with "pushing". Look at the history of Russian and Soviet aggression: Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia all joined NATO to guarantee their security. Then came the longtime holdouts Finland and Sweden. See a trend here?

You believe that the 2014 Ukrainian elections were organic? It wasn't orchestrated by the CIA? Wasn't Victoria Nuland relatively recently bragging about how we 'Overthrew the Russian puppet in Ukraine?'
How do you think the process for NATO membership works? Do you think some random nation state leader wakes up one day and decides they want to be a NATO member, goes to NATO.com to fill out an application, and then get an instant approval? It's a long courtship on both sides, mostly that of NATO. There are extremely interesting declassified conversations from the Bush Sr. admin after the fall of the wall on how they would expand NATO to the East.

I don't understand why anyone would expect one of the great nuclear powers to accept an anti-them treaty organization to move right up to their border. I wouldn't accept it if China formed an Anti-America "Defensive" Treaty and then added Canada, Cuba, or Mexico to that treaty. Frankly, I think we should be devoting the resources in Ukraine to dealing with China in regards to the fentanyl they've trafficked through Mexico.

And the idea that life would be "unchanged" under Russian control is contradicted by the reality in Russian-occupied territories and yours is a dangerously naive position to take given the historical context. Merely look at Russia's long history of aggression: they roll on an entire country and then subjugate that population to be the vanguard in their next acquisition. If Russia had successfully swept Ukraine, Ukrainians would be forced into action into Moldova ,rinse, repeat and on to the next. This is what Russia does, history demonstrates that this is what they have always done.

Yea, life radically changed for the inhabitants of Crimea. The CIA's propaganda has convinced people that Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom. If that were true, I'd be inclined to support them. We haven't actually allowed anyone to fight for their freedom since the Korean War. The truth is the Ukrainian's only choices are that of a Russian puppet or a Western puppet. Tyranny will be had regardless. Why should over a million men die to swap one tyrant for another???

 

[JohnJohnson]

You believe that the 2014 Ukrainian elections were organic? It was orchestrated by the CIA? Wasn't Victoria Nuland relatively recently bragging about how we 'Overthrew the Russian puppet in Ukraine?'
How do you think the process for NATO membership works? Do you think some random nation state leader wakes up one day and decides they want to be a NATO member, goes to NATO.com to fill out an application, and then get an instant approval? It's a long courtship on both sides, mostly that of NATO. There are extremely interesting declassified conversations from the Bush Sr. admin after the fall of the wall on how they would expand NATO to the East.

People need to get more familiar with John Mearsheimer. At some point if certain people have been consistently right for decades we should probably start listening to them.

 

[long hunter]

HEY BOYS WAS IS HELL, Let’s get back to the shot pretty impressive in anyone’s book.