I have no interest in propaganda lens that try to subvert reality. Most estimates put the resulting deaths from our invasion of Iraq at over 1 million. I'm not here to condemn our nation, Old Glory flies proudly own my property. It's simply that perspective is important.
Whataboutism. The mistakes/wrongdoings of one nation do not grant another nation a license to commit its own mistakes/wrongdoings/savagery. Why do you keep coming back to this comparison? The core issue in Ukraine is very different from Iraq and Russia's full-scale invasion is the direct cause of the present suffering, regardless of any historical comparisons or previous inflicted suffering.
And there's the fact that Ukraine has been castrating their POWs, so save the Russians are torturing, raping, and killing civillians so we must get involved nonsense. Any evidence of this has been extremely shaky at best.
Incorrect. There is ovverwhelming evidence of Russian war crimes: The UN, Human Rights Monitoring Mission, the ICC, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International have all documented widespread and systematic Russian war crimes.
Want an example? The Bucha Massacre: hundreds of civilians were found executed, which was verified by satellite imagery as well on-the-ground investigators.
Satellite imagery available here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/60981238
Regarding Ukrainian POWs, there have been isolated and, yes, disturbing videos alleging Ukrainian misconduct, though these have not been verified as a systematic policy and there is nothing to suggest that it is systematic. The difference here is the scale and systemic nature of the Russia's crimes vs. isolated examples out of Ukraine.
Had NATO not starting pushing into Ukraine, this war never happens. Had NATO not supported Ukraine post Chrimea, Russia would have taken control of the nation in a matter of weeks with 1% of 1% of the death and destruction that we've seen. Over 1 million slavic men would be alive today. AND the life of the average Ukranian would be not different than it was pre invasion.
I sincerely can not understand the mind that could still believe that "Russia's aspirations for additional expansionism" could be any threat to NATO nations after x years of this meat grinder in Ukraine.
NATO did not "push into" Ukraine. Ukraine, as a sovereign nation chose to apply for membership to protect themselves. The Crimea invasion triggered US and European forces training Ukrainian forces
at the request of the Ukrainians. Let's not confuse "helping at the request of" with "pushing". Look at the history of Russian and Soviet aggression: Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia all joined NATO to guarantee their security. Then came the longtime holdouts Finland and Sweden. See a trend here?
And the idea that life would be "unchanged" under Russian control is contradicted by the reality in Russian-occupied territories and yours is a dangerously naive position to take given the historical context. Merely look at Russia's long history of aggression: they roll on an entire country and then subjugate that population to be the vanguard in their next acquisition. If Russia had successfully swept Ukraine, Ukrainians would be forced into action into Moldova ,rinse, repeat and on to the next.
This is what Russia does, history demonstrates that this is what they have always done.