Uhhh...that's not hunting dude.

[sndmn11]

That is almost as hard as summer elk hunting in Colorado;-)

Those July velvet bulls in the ag fields, totally forgot about that!

 

[KHNC]

Bruce has fallen far off the wagon last year or two with his posts. Used to be a decent guy i thought. Not so sure nowadays with all of his criticism.

 

[EastHumboldt]

It’s certainly not fair chase, especially if they cover the water holes at night. That is IMO f’d up. Most of us I believe at least give the animals some chance of escaping.

 

[JustSomeGuy35]

While I think Bruce is being judgmental as hell, I can understand why some would say it isn't hunting. When I lived in WA, I had to hike my ass off to get into areas away from the crowd. My success rate was pretty low too since the game knew they were being hunted. It was hard but an immensely rewarding style of hunting.

Since I moved from WA to WV and now IL, I would hardly call what I do "hunting". It's more like harvesting. Sitting in a blind or stand, on my own property, waiting for the deer to cross from my neighbor's soybean/corn fields, to the other neighbor's pond. My property sits right between them and it's like clockwork.

Even though I don't get the same feeling of accomplishment from it, it's a helluva good feeling now that my freezer is full of venison each year. I'm not a trophy hunter, nor do I care what other people think, so maybe my perspective is different since I "hunt", fish and garden purely to put food on the table.

 

[svivian]

@Where's Bruce? Did you say this to the dudes face?

 

[Billy Goat]

I mean, I can run the livestock out of water, then put someone next to the water trough in the morning and fill it up.

I won't charge too much per #.


Plenty pay by the inch anyways.


Hunting high fence in SA over nightly covered water is a little different than sitting a waterhole for Antelope.

 

[KurtR]

Not what i would do it but im not paying and its not my time so it falls under the who cares for me. Its high fence they can manage their live stock how they see fit. Seems more jealous that the guy had 20g to blow

 

[307]

I just hope they took the halters off first.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Yes, I own an ADC company (Animal Damage Control) and yes, I prefer velvet meat but these are still fair chase. Yes, I have a very expensive heirloom recurve that I have hunted with but not successfully. I have never hunted HF.

Bubblehide's point is in line with my own...if the sole sources of water within the high fence are covered at night, forcing animals to drink during "shooting hours" then it ceases to be the pursuit of game and becomes more like shooting fish in a barrel. Hunting should require effort, knowledge, skill and respect...sticking a guy in a blind who can shoot anything that wanders close enough to him while watering is hardly "hunting"...that's ambushing animals somewhat indiscriminately. Pay as you go...no specific species...just shoot whatever happens to be drinking near you. Yeah...you're a big game hunter. Your guide is watching from the air conditioned vehicle 250 yards away with a trailer to haul your kills away so you don't have to be out in the sun any longer than it takes to photograph you with your trophy.

 

[KurtR]

Yes, I own an ADC company (Animal Damage Control) and yes, I prefer velvet meat but these are still fair chase. Yes, I have a very expensive heirloom recurve that I have hunted with but not successfully. I have never hunted HF.

Bubblehide's point is in line with my own...if the sole sources of water within the high fence are covered at night, forcing animals to drink during "shooting hours" then it ceases to be the pursuit of game and becomes more like shooting fish in a barrel. Hunting should require effort, knowledge, skill and respect...sticking a guy in a blind who can shoot anything that wanders close enough to him while watering is hardly "hunting"...that's ambushing animals somewhat indiscriminately. Pay as you go...no specific species...just shoot whatever happens to be drinking near you. Yeah...you're a big game hunter. Your guide is watching from the air conditioned vehicle 250 yards away with a trailer to haul your kills away so you don't have to be out in the sun any longer than it takes to photograph you with your trophy.

So dont do it. Problem solved....

 

[Where's Bruce?]

You are wrong. Ex. Disabled hunter
Your just complaining because the guy sounds annoying but doubt he went and made a post on an online forum about it so maybe he wasn’t the most annoying one in the conversation..?

Helping disabled vets hunt is a deeply personal thing to me and why I support VSA. Built a half dozen backpacks with chairs so guides could carry these vets on public land stalks and ya know what? They are getting it done. This one guy shoots his bow better than I do and he has one arm, draws with his teeth! He's a real hunter...not at all like the braggart I met. I know several hunters...Mr. Big Game Trophy Hunter isn't one.

Check out the guy's elk here: https://www.rokslide.com/forums/thr...and-cargo-chairs-wanted-for-good-cause.36536/

 

[Gone4Days]

Different strokes for different folks. Let people do what they want without criticism.

 

[Keith Stone]

Yes, I own an ADC company (Animal Damage Control) and yes, I prefer velvet meat but these are still fair chase. Yes, I have a very expensive heirloom recurve that I have hunted with but not successfully. I have never hunted HF.

So you shoot smaller fish in a bigger barrel?

 

[Okhotnik]

It’s certainly not fair chase, especially if they cover the water holes at night. That is IMO f’d up. Most of us I believe at least give the animals some chance of escaping.

What about targeting deer and elk during the rut when they aren't very cautious and their guard is down? Not very sporting in my book lol

 

[Okhotnik]

Helping disabled vets hunt is a deeply personal thing to me and why I support VSA. Built a half dozen backpacks with chairs so guides could carry these vets on public land stalks and ya know what? They are getting it done. This one guy shoots his bow better than I do and he has one arm, draws with his teeth! He's a real hunter...not at all like the braggart I met. I know several hunters...Mr. Big Game Trophy Hunter isn't one.

Check out the guy's elk here: https://www.rokslide.com/forums/thr...and-cargo-chairs-wanted-for-good-cause.36536/

what's your view of using training wheels on bows?

 

[Azone]

Big deal. Guy spent his money stroking his own ego, probably a narcissist with no real friends. I personally feel like when people give me shit about a tag that wasn’t filled and they filled theirs with a guide holding their hand that it doesn’t really count, as much. That’s just my opinion, everyone is gonna have there opinions. I have to listen to one of my friends act like the worlds greatest hunter when he comes back with stuffed ice chests from a high fence place. I just shrug and remind him damn near anyone can get some at a cat house if your willing to pay for it.

 

[Azone]

So you shoot smaller fish in a bigger barrel? View attachment 440644

Who’s getting pistol whipped?

 

[Rob5589]

It's probably a man made tank not a natural water hole. I don't see the difference between that and sitting in a heated blind over a feeder waiting for the "target" animal.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Opinions are worth what you pay for them.

NOTHING

 

[amassi]

When the op shoots crop damage elk still in velvet but complains about safari

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