Turkey pattern? Satisfied ?

[Fadetoblack188]

Bulk of it is about the size of your fist, but it fills a 10” circle nicely. More than enough wiggle room.

From my experience with my testing shows virtually no difference between the OP’s more open pattern and my tighter pattern at 20 yards. Ymmv

So your saying stick with what I got?

 

[N2TRKYS]

So your saying stick with what I got?

If you like it

Report back on how you like biting into a piece of tss shot that you missed while cleaning your bird.

 

[Fadetoblack188]

If you like it

Report back on how you like biting into a piece of tss shot that you missed while cleaning your bird.

I just ordered at 575 . See how that one patterns. Just feel it might be super tight up close

 

[N2TRKYS]

I just ordered at 575 . See how that one patterns. Just feel it might be super tight up close

What gun are you using?

 

[Fadetoblack188]

What gun are you using?

Franchi affinity 3 compact 20

 

[N2TRKYS]

Franchi affinity 3 compact 20

I bet you like that 575. Good luck.

 

[Fadetoblack188]

Thanks

 

[Jimss]

If you are worried about it I’d trade in your 20 for a 12 and never have another worry in your life. If a tom is inside 50 yards with decent gobbler loads he’s dead…end of story!

Sounds very similar to the endless wave of Creedmore guys wondering if their Creed is big enough for elk!

 

[Fadetoblack188]

If you are worried about it I’d trade in your 20 for a 12 and never have another worry in your life. If a tom is inside 50 yards with decent gobbler loads he’s dead…end of story!

Sounds very similar to the endless wave of Creedmore guys wondering if their Creed is big enough for elk!

I do
I have a benelli super nova 12 that I use as well dedicated for turkey. But I picked this up to use for run and gun. Much lighter

 

[Jimss]

Sell it and get a lighter 12 guage? Never worry about wounding another tom or just take take shorter range shots with your 20?

 

[jlw0142]

Yeah, I definitely wouldnt worry about that at 40 yds! Looks good, best of luck to ya...now you don't have an excuse to miss

 

[dtrkyman]

Seems some have not seen a 20ga TSS pattern, thinking it is not sufficient at longer distance is just foolish!

Look at his pattern pic!

 

[GSPHUNTER]

All I would say is shoot same load three times to be certain pattern is consistent. But ya looks good.

 

[WCB]

If you are worried about it I’d trade in your 20 for a 12 and never have another worry in your life. If a tom is inside 50 yards with decent gobbler loads he’s dead…end of story!

Sounds very similar to the endless wave of Creedmore guys wondering if their Creed is big enough for elk!

? so 12 gauges can't have bad patters? you also know with TSS shot that 20 gauge is more than enough out to 60+ yards? The days of the ole 12 gauge magnum 3.5" turkey load to kill anything over 40 yds is LOOOOONG gone.

 

[Jimss]

Obviously every shotgun isn’t created equally.

How many pellets are in a 12 vs 20 guage? How much powder is in a 12 vs 20?

 

[Fadetoblack188]

Everything you read on oldgobbler.com. Nobody is sticking with 12 gauges everyone moving over to 20 tss. 12 is becoming a thing of the past with turkey for the die hard a

 

[dtrkyman]

Obviously every shotgun isn’t created equally.

How many pellets are in a 12 vs 20 guage? How much powder is in a 12 vs 20?

TSS has changed the game. Velocity is actually very similar(1175-1200) Of course the 12 can hold more shot, but a 20ga can hold a pattern to 65-70 yards, how far you wanna kill turkeys?

The op stated wanting to be confident out at 50 yards, that combo he is shooting will easily accomplish that!

TSS 9 shot has approximately 362 pellets per ounce, 20ga loads of 1 5/8th oz, so over 400 number 9s in that load. You start throwing 225 plus in a ten inch circle at 40 yards and you have a 60 yard gun.

A TSS load developer came up with the .7 rule

If you have 200 tss #9 pellets in a 10" circle at 40 yards you would multiply 200 X .7 =140 pellets in the 10" at 50 yards

it goes in 10 yard increments, so 140 pellets at 50yds times .7 = 98 pellets in 10" at 60yds, and so on in 10 yard increments.

So even at only 200 in the ten you are approaching a 60 yard gun, most agree that 100 in the ten will consistently kill turkeys.

"With number 9s, I can get 310 in a 10" at 40 yds, so the numbers are 70+ for the pattern viability, and 72 yds for the pellet penetration energy. Those match up almost perfectly, with no gap between the pattern viability and pellet penetration. So, that's why I choose #9s for the 20 ga, for turkeys."

Quote from same loader. ^

We can go way into the weeds on turkey patterns, I do not even though I load my own, TSS was not commercially available when I started shooting it, and I load for half the price they sell it for, my 40 yard pattern looks fantastic, I know I can kill turkeys further than I want to shoot, I like a little lee way for miss judging yardage.

Rarely kill one over 35, have no issue with guys shooting further as long as they know their limits!

 

[N2TRKYS]

I like #7.5s in my 20 gauge loads, as well.

 

[Fadetoblack188]

Grabbed a un ported 585 to see if it shoots better than the current 585 ported.

Also a 575 to see what alittle tighter looks like

 

[GreenNDark Timber]

Same gun, same shell with 575 choke. The 575 outperformed the 585 significantly in mine

40yd

20 yd