Trijicon, Nightforce, Maven, or ? For Durability

[Physical_Wind954]

Background: Last year while on a hunt in the mountains I had my Leupold VX3HD aquire a wandering zero...Now I'm digging down the rabbit hole of durable scopes. I really like the idea of the Trijicon Accupoint ($550ish new), but am wondering if this is actually a good idea strictly based on the fact that I cannot find too many people who use them.

Use case: I would be mounting it on a Tikka T3x 6.5cm chopped to 18". Typical use case would be 50-400 yards (average is probably between 150-200 yards) shots on white tail and mulies in Western Montana. Possiblity of elk if I stumble upon something I can shoot and haven't filled that tag yet, but this is not the rifle I would take looking for elk.

Finally my question: Given the above, would a 3-9x40 Trijicon Accupoint be reasonable and good enough for this usage or should I step up to either an Nightforce or Maven? I know if I were to do that I would need to double my budget, which I can do, but I don't want to spend that much on a scope if I don't need to.

I appreciate your time and look forward to any any all suggestions.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Why do you feel the need for a variable power scope for 50-400 yards?

If that was my use case, the SWFA fixed 6 in MIL is the scope to buy here.

 

[Physical_Wind954]

That is an option that I considered, I just liked that the accupoint was 7oz lighter. I also have been watching SWFA's sight for a couple of months and they have been sold out this whole time.

 

[Matt5266]

Agree SWFA is the easy button here..... and even cheaper

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Accupoint is a great scope and should be plenty more durable than the Leupold. I really liked my 3-9 Credo as well but a little more weight.

 

[KenLee]

Accupoints are spectacular scopes for the $. We've been using three 2.5-10x56 pretty hard for 5 years with zero problems with the scopes.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The Accupoint is a superb scope. It’s perfect as a set-it-and-forget-it scope. The glass is clear, it’s utterly reliable, and the illumination is nice when I need it. I absolutely love mine… but, I own six fixed power SWFA scopes (three 6x, one 10x, and two 12x).

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

I have been following the scope drop tests which is what prompted me to sign up for an account. It doesn’t look like all Maven scopes pass. Looks like nightforce and trijicon consistently do. I would look at the SHV 3-10 if you want something tough.

 

[SloppyJ]

3x9 creedo is an option as well. But if you want to dial, find a used maven. It will likely be your best budget option.

 

[Physical_Wind954]

Accupoint is a great scope and should be plenty more durable than the Leupold. I really liked my 3-9 Credo as well but a little more weight.

What made you chose the credo over another accupoint?

Accupoints are spectacular scopes for the $. We've been using three 2.5-10x56 pretty hard for 5 years with zero problems with the scopes.

Ive only previously looked into the 3-9x40, I'll take a look at this one as well.

The Accupoint is a superb scope. It’s perfect as a set-it-and-forget-it scope. The glass is clear, it’s utterly reliable, and the illumination is nice when I need it. I absolutely love mine… but, I own six fixed power SWFA scopes (three 6x, one 10x, and two 12x).

That was kind of my hope, to use a 50/200y zero and then just know my holds out to 400. I also liked the idea of the mildot reticle with 100y zero, I would need to plug it all into strelok before determining which reticle I like best.

I have been following the scope drop tests which is what prompted me to sign up for an account. It doesn’t look like all Maven scopes pass. Looks like nightforce and trijicon consistently do. I would look at the SHV 3-10 if you want something tough.

Literally years of lurking without an account, the drop tests are what finally got me to bite as well. Do you think the SHV is tougher than the Accupoint?

3x9 creedo is an option as well. But if you want to dial, find a used maven. It will likely be your best budget option.

I'll look into Maven and see if anyone around me is selling any to get an idea of the used prices for them. I added that one since it did okay on the drop tests, but honestly haven't looked into them much since I hadn't heard of them before.

 

[plebe]

For quick shots:

FOV
Accupoint at 3x = 33.8ft
SWFA 6x = 22ft

And the Accupoint reticles can be quite fast on target.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

What made you chose the credo over another accupoint?

Ive only previously looked into the 3-9x40, I'll take a look at this one as well.

That was kind of my hope, to use a 50/200y zero and then just know my holds out to 400. I also liked the idea of the mildot reticle with 100y zero, I would need to plug it all into strelok before determining which reticle I like best.

Literally years of lurking without an account, the drop tests are what finally got me to bite as well. Do you think the SHV is tougher than the Accupoint?

I'll look into Maven and see if anyone around me is selling any to get an idea of the used prices for them. I added that one since it did okay on the drop tests, but honestly haven't looked into them much since I hadn't heard of them before.

I think you will want a 100 yard zero and then know your holds.

 

[dreamingWest]

I love Accupoints. I just put the small 3-9x40 on a Tikka t1x. I also have a 2.5-12.5x42 and a 1-6x24. These are my first choice if I'm not going to be dialing elevation. The tritium reticles are great. It would be pretty cool if Trijicon added a fixed 4 or fixed 6 to the line-up. But I've never had trouble with the variables.

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

What made you chose the credo over another accupoint?

Ive only previously looked into the 3-9x40, I'll take a look at this one as well.

That was kind of my hope, to use a 50/200y zero and then just know my holds out to 400. I also liked the idea of the mildot reticle with 100y zero, I would need to plug it all into strelok before determining which reticle I like best.

Literally years of lurking without an account, the drop tests are what finally got me to bite as well. Do you think the SHV is tougher than the Accupoint?

I'll look into Maven and see if anyone around me is selling any to get an idea of the used prices for them. I added that one since it did okay on the drop tests, but honestly haven't looked into them much since I hadn't heard of them before.

I have owned several nightforce and trijicon scopes. The nightforces feel beefier and tougher to me. Part of that could be psychological. Trijicons are usually more budget friendly, but if money wasn’t an option I would 100% go with the SHV. Full disclosure I have sold all but one of my trijicons to upgrade to nightforces.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

What made you chose the credo over another accupoint?

I didn't, sold the Credo a while back and bought a used Accupoint after that but ended up selling it as well. I got some funky going on with my eyes where they don't always focus the same and found that parallax adjustment helps a good bit with my eyes so I picked up a little NXS compact. I have a NF 2.5-10x42 SHV for sale right now as well for the same reason, almost brand new.

 

[Southern Lights]

I have SHV 3-10 and Accupoint 3-9. Both are fine scopes. The accupoint is much lighter and smaller profile. It pairs well with smaller/lighter rifles. Seems to dial fine, but it's not really my first choice for dialing as the turret knob does not feel really robust for that kind of repeated use.

SHVs are my primary scopes and they have better turrets for continuous dialing. They are larger scopes though but feel substantially well built. They hold, dial and return to zero consistently out to long ranges (800+y in my use). I think they feel tougher all around to me vs. the Accupoint for a modest weight and price difference.

It depends if you prioritize smaller/lighter with less use turrets, or larger/heavier and turrets you want to use more.

 

[Rockpicker]

Depending on BC and velocity and using the mil dot reticle you’ll have a 1 mil hold at 300 yards and a 2 mil hold for 400 yards. Split the difference for 350. These are rough guesstimates that will vary by a tenth or two. If you’re not shooting through branches at distance you should be good to go.

 

[Physical_Wind954]

I have SHV 3-10 and Accupoint 3-9. Both are fine scopes. The accupoint is much lighter and smaller profile. It pairs well with smaller/lighter rifles. Seems to dial fine, but it's not really my first choice for dialing as the turret knob does not feel really robust for that kind of repeated use.

SHVs are my primary scopes and they have better turrets for continuous dialing. They are larger scopes though but feel substantially well built. They hold, dial and return to zero consistently out to long ranges (800+y in my use). I think they feel tougher all around to me vs. the Accupoint for a modest weight and price difference.

It depends if you prioritize smaller/lighter with less use turrets, or larger/heavier and turrets you want to use more.

Well now you're trying to convince me to get both, it's not me you have to convince, but rather the wife. The goal of this rifle is a lightweight rifle at distances close enough that not dialing would be okay. My other larger rifle though is also rocking a 10ish year old Vortex PST gen 1 2.5-10 that could definitely use an upgrade as well.

I didn't, sold the Credo a while back and bought a used Accupoint after that but ended up selling it as well. I got some funky going on with my eyes where they don't always focus the same and found that parallax adjustment helps a good bit with my eyes so I picked up a little NXS compact. I have a NF 2.5-10x42 SHV for sale right now as well for the same reason, almost brand new.

Ill try and take a look in two weeks to see if you still have it. Long time lurker, but finally created an account yesterday so I don't have access to the classifieds yet.

Depending on BC and velocity and using the mil dot reticle you’ll have a 1 mil hold at 300 yards and a 2 mil hold for 400 yards. Split the difference for 350. These are rough guesstimates that will vary by a tenth or two. If you’re not shooting through branches at distance you should be good to go.

That's the hope! 400y would definitely be an anomaly as well so not super worried about it.

 

[Shizam]

I love Accupoints. I just put the small 3-9x40 on a Tikka t1x. I also have a 2.5-12.5x42 and a 1-6x24. These are my first choice if I'm not going to be dialing elevation. The tritium reticles are great. It would be pretty cool if Trijicon added a fixed 4 or fixed 6 to the line-up. But I've never had trouble with the variables.

Could you tell me more about how you like the 3-9 vs the 2.5-12.5? I realize they’re pretty different but they’re the two Iookkmg at to put on a Tikka T3x for boar/deer hunting.

 

[dreamingWest]

Could you tell me more about how you like the 3-9 vs the 2.5-12.5? I realize they’re pretty different but they’re the two Iookkmg at to put on a Tikka T3x for boar/deer hunting.

The 3-9 is new, I've only used it once to help my son sight in his new .22. It's a simple green dot duplex reticle. It seems ideal (more likely overkill) for his .22. It's a one inch tube using their older Accupoint fiber design. You can see the difference if you look at the fiber housing near the eye piece on the scope. These older ones have a linear shade:

The newer ones, like on the 2.5-12.5, have "clock-face" shade:

The 2.5-12.5 went on a 338 WM I used on a moose-grizzly hunt. I picked the mil-dot reticle so I had some standard holdovers, but it was really set-up as an MPBR gun. It was perfect for the application. I shot the moose at 30 yards and the bear at 100 yards.

The 3-9x40 (1" tube, 13.4 oz) seems much smaller and compact. $630, euroOptic
The 2.5-12x42 (30mm tube, 22.4 oz) seems more robust. $909, euroOptic

+$280 for more zoom range, more weight, updated design.
Optically, I haven't had them side-by-side, but I believe they are equals. Both will work well in normal hunting hours (light). I'd probably pay up for the 2.5-12.5 unless I had a very specific weight goal for the rifle. Or I was specifically building a budget gun (kid's gun, truck gun, loaner, etc.).