And it's not just turbos. Direct injection requires a high pressure fuel system, like a diesel. But they ALSO have port injection, so boom, now you get 2x injectors and fuel systems per engine! And boosted engines have a lot more piping in the engine bay, and intercoolers. And all the sensors and actuators they have now. And the hybrid system. I mean, how fun does this look to work on?
I do my own maintenance on my 3.5 Ecoboost.
Sounds like you shouldn’t buy one. I like mine. And I don’t need to keep a car for half a million miles. I just want to drive it and be comfortable. My 6.7 diesel truck has more turbo lag than this. But this doesn’t tow 15k for me. Different needs for different people.
I said 200k, not 500k. And that's still a pretty low bar. The reason that matters is that car can be bought used in great condition at 100k miles and last another 10 years/100k miles without issue. And then sold for little to no depreciation. This is a massive financial enabler. I've saved 10s to 100s of thousands over my lifetime because Toyota makes a reliable vehicle. When I shop new cars, and hear stories about what people are willing to spend on a depreciating asset, I shudder.
Ok. Thanks. I still like it.
You only drive 10k miles a year?
I bought a pickup with 138 on it and totaled it 12 years later with 197.
I put 10k just scouting for waterfowl every year. Driving a 100 miles one way just to go eat for an afternoon is normal around here.
Most of my family lives about 100 miles away and if we go see them 3 times a year, we are doing good. I hate driving.
If some one doesn't like driving Sodak isnt the place for them. I like it as im always scouting and meeting new land owners. Put about 60k average driving to job sites for work a year. 200 miles one way for training day with the dog in the summer. Its a 100 miles just to get to a walmart
My commute to work is 15 miles round trip. I can hunt about 2 miles up the road from my house. Even to get to the primary area is 60 miles round trip. Most of my waterfowl scouting is done by taking the long way to and from work. You kill a lot more birds than I do though so your method is more effective.
I was speaking in simple round numbers. I think national average is 10-12k per year. I drive right around that. There was a period in my life where I drove 22.5k per year. Not my preferred lifestyle.
My commute to work is about 1 mile. I drive across the whole town in about 5 minutes as long as I don’t hit one of the two stop lights haha. I could cut the scouting down but always chasing the next feed. I deer pheasant grouse hunt and fish about 5 minutes from home. We just don’t have much so it’s a 100 miles in any direction to get to a town with any size with restaurants or clothing. It’s always entertaining when we get contractors from big city’s here and they want to order a call back and don’t understand we are 60 miles from the redi mix plant. Or they break something and ask where to get parts and it’s 200 miles one way.
Fair enough! I am sure the hybrid engine is comparable. But this was not even close for me.
That was me the last 6 years. Have 106k miles on a 4.5 YO truck. Luckily those days are over, looking like I am in the 10k range now based on usage the past 3 months.
Like I mentioned earlier, I have driven the hybrid, and it felt decent but I still noticed the lack of power compared to my sequoia. I actually didn't know the gas version was only 278hp. That's basically the same as the 5th gen (270hp).
