Toyota I-Force Owners, any issues?

[COelk89]

I have been toying with swapping out from a F150 to Toyota. I have the 3.5 liter EcoBoost, always been happy with the EcoBoost as I had a 2011 and now a 2021. The only issue is I don't view them as a 200k mile engine...turbos on these smaller engines are not a heavy duty turbo and I know many folks that have had theirs go out. I am at 106k miles and getting nervous about issues starting to pop up.

I don't really need a truck anymore and really like the new 4 runners, only issue is the new turbo 4 cylinder has had issues. Curious if anyone with one in a Tacoma or 4 runner has any first hand experience. My preference would be get a low mileage 2024 4 runner with the proven V6, but prices I have been seeing I can get a brand new one at around the same price as a 2024 with a better rate on the loan.

Curious if anyone can chime in on experience with the new 25-26 Toyota engines?

 

[Jbehredt]

The reason 24s command a premium is it’s not hard to see the durability advantage of the old V6. No personal experience with the new turbo engines because I saw them coming and filled the garage/driveway with real Toyotas. Seems many are willing to accept 100k miles as an acceptable lifespan on a new vehicle theses days. I much prefer scheduled maintenance to unforeseen repairs.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Love mine. The 2.4 will go down in history, it’s extremely over built to say the least. I’ve owned ever gen taco, this is my favorite.

Have a gx550 for the wife’s toy, I had 25 tundra but hated the size of it for on the trails. We have had 3rd,4th, and 5th gen t4r. The 6th gen t4R is vastly better then the old ones for usable power and drivetrains. The 8 speeds are awesome.

Not one single reported engine issue so not sure where ya got that from, some eary 24 has trans recalls and replacement, but the engine is as bulletproof as you’re gunna get.

And boy are they fun to drive and tow with! Don’t miss my 3rd gen pro at all, or my second gen, or my first lol.

I went non hybrid because I wanted the rest storage, but nothing wrong with the hybrid at all! They make some nice torque, if you go with either and want more power, tuning is available and it’s wild what these trucks are capable of.

Go drive em, bet ya end up signing the paper and will be a happy camper!

 

[ID_Matt]

I just spent $4K on my second set of cam phasers in a 2019 Ford F150 ecoboost. 2 sets in under 90K miles. Has me looking in to Toyota as well so curious on others thoughts.

 

[solarshooter]

The new 4cyl engine seems reliable enough, but the drivetrain has had multiple recalls. Also I have driven a 6G 4Runner a couple times and the turbo lag is really noticeable coming from the earlier gen large displacement V6s and V8s. The new V6 is pretty amazing power wise but with the main bearing issue I will never touch one with a 10ft pole (until it's proven fixed). For me, the new Taco/4R are so small on the inside as to be functionally useless. So yeah, I personally will pass on the new gen stuff haha.

 

[Broken Twigg]

What @bowhuntercoop wrote regarding 2.4 turbo has been my experience. I put 31k on my 24 Taco last year without issue. I have the Sport, but mostly leave it in Eco mode. It is fun and I get around 22mpg average. My only complaint is that I wish they offered a bigger backseat. It is my daily driver that I also use for hunting and all the other outdoor stuff. Seriously consider the 6ft bed if it will be for all around use. The highest I've had it was around 10.5k on the Beartooth and it has no issue with altitude.

 

[Ucsdryder]

If anybody in Colorado is looking for a new tundra/tacoma let me know.

 

[Thinkingman]

My 2015 F150 3.5 Eco just turned 190k miles.
I do my own maintenance, had to get exhaust manifolds at about 160k due to bolt shearing but that's it, plus a couple of coil packs recently.
Good power, smooth, quiet and love the 6.5' bed.
There's no way I would downgrade to a Toyota unless I just wanted to look like I drive a truck.
I will buy another F150, no question after my 2006 Tacoma fiasco.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

My 2015 F150 3.5 Eco just turned 190k miles.
I do my own maintenance, had to get exhaust manifolds at about 160k due to bolt shearing but that's it, plus a couple of coil packs recently.
Good power, smooth, quiet and love the 6.5' bed.
There's no way I would downgrade to a Toyota unless I just wanted to look like I drive a truck.
I will buy another F150, no question after my 2006 Tacoma fiasco.

Shocker……

 

[Thinkingman]

Shocker……

Yeah....

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[bowhuntercoop]

Yeah....

Love your watch collection!

Just busting on ya lol

 

[COelk89]

@bowhuntercoop maybe the issues I read about are what @solarshooter was alluding to on the V6, but I think those are only available in the Sequoia. I read about main bearing issues but need to dig into it further. I do love these smaller turbo charged engines for power and fuel economy since I rarely tow, just not really for longevity.

If it was my personal truck I would not be selling, but I have a company provided truck that I no longer really need for my new role. The smart thing would be to just keep driving it until they tell me they want it back and I may just do that. But if I start having maintenance costs and don't have the justification to have the truck for work needs, I can see that day coming sooner than later. Getting something more trail capable and smaller is desirable for my new situation. I have had a company truck for personal use going on 8 years, and we also have some new tax implications starting this year. Just feels like it is time to cut the chord but I am torn. Appreciate the feedback.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

@bowhuntercoop maybe the issues I read about are what @solarshooter was alluding to on the V6, but I think those are only available in the Sequoia. I read about main bearing issues but need to dig into it further. I do love these smaller turbo charged engines for power and fuel economy since I rarely tow, just not really for longevity.

If it was my personal truck I would not be selling, but I have a company provided truck that I no longer really need for my new role. The smart thing would be to just keep driving it until they tell me they want it back and I may just do that. But if I start having maintenance costs and don't have the justification to have the truck for work needs, I can see that day coming sooner than later. Getting something more trail capable and smaller is desirable for my new situation. I have had a company truck for personal use going on 8 years, and we also have some new tax implications starting this year. Just feels like it is time to cut the chord but I am torn. Appreciate the feedback.

Correct it’s the v35a series engine. Tundra and sequoia both gas and hybrid. The eat mains still in 2026, officially statement is being released next month, but that ship has sailed, they ruined the tundra imo.

The 2.4 is stout! There was a trans recall and brake recall, driveline and drivetrains are solid, engine is solid. Go drive one, they are legit.

This happens every single time a new gen is released lol. It’s the shy is falling, they are junk, they went cheaper. Then in 10 years they are regarded as the best and the new gen is junk, rinse and repeat

 

[solarshooter]

The 3.5L (really a 3.4) V6 twin turbo V35A-FTS is installed in the following vehicles:

Recalls have only been issued for certain model years of certain models from the list above, but the spun main bearing issue has been observed to varying degrees in all the models. It was initially blamed on residual machining debris, but that either wasn't resolved or wasn't the true root cause since the failures have continued to occur. Failure rate is roughly 1%. Best case is preventative or remedial full engine replacement covered by the recall. Worst case is short block replacement done by the dealer after experiencing the failure. In either case you may be without a ride for weeks to months.

 

[solarshooter]

Correct it’s the v35a series engine. Tundra and sequoia both gas and hybrid. The eat mains still in 2026, officially statement is being released next month, but that ship has sailed, they ruined the tundra imo.

The 2.4 is stout! There was a trans recall and brake recall, driveline and drivetrains are solid, engine is solid. Go drive one, they are legit.

This happens every single time a new gen is released lol. It’s the shy is falling, they are junk, they went cheaper. Then in 10 years they are regarded as the best and the new gen is junk, rinse and repeat

You're leaving out front and rear driveshaft recalls, and widely reported transmission failures which haven't been officially recalled but are being replaced under TSB.

 

[solarshooter]

The reason I know/care so much about these issues is I'm a lifelong Toyota truck/SUV owner (1992 Pickup, 2004 4Runner, 2003 Tundra, 2013 Sequoia) and was planning to buy a 3G Tundra when they were released. The major engine issues and resulting hit to resale values killed the two best things about a Toyota truck/SUV. We haven't even seen significant numbers of these vehicles get into the higher mileage/age range yet, so there may be more surprises to come. Not saying they aren't great to drive, or that many might not have had issues (yet), but thus far they are much worse than any previous generation/powerplant.

 

[COelk89]

Correct it’s the v35a series engine. Tundra and sequoia both gas and hybrid. The eat mains still in 2026, officially statement is being released next month, but that ship has sailed, they ruined the tundra imo.

The 2.4 is stout! There was a trans recall and brake recall, driveline and drivetrains are solid, engine is solid. Go drive one, they are legit.

This happens every single time a new gen is released lol. It’s the shy is falling, they are junk, they went cheaper. Then in 10 years they are regarded as the best and the new gen is junk, rinse and repeat

Going to check one out Thursday. They will probably have to make me a deal of the century to get me to pull the trigger, but it sounds like they have a lot on the lot they are trying to move. This is the price they are offering right now on a 4WD SR5 and I have 20k to put down. This is cheaper than a lot of used dealers are currently trying to move 25's at.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Going to check one out Thursday. They will probably have to make me a deal of the century to get me to pull the trigger, but it sounds like they have a lot on the lot they are trying to move. This is the price they are offering right now on a 4WD SR5 and I have 20k to put down. This is cheaper than a lot of used dealers are currently trying to move 25's at.

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I paid 42600 otd the door for my sport, but out state tax is capped at 500. I got them take off 5k from sticker.

8-10 percent is generally good, you can get 11-12 percent with haggling.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

The reason I know/care so much about these issues is I'm a lifelong Toyota truck/SUV owner (1992 Pickup, 2004 4Runner, 2003 Tundra, 2013 Sequoia) and was planning to buy a 3G Tundra when they were released. The major engine issues and resulting hit to resale values killed the two best things about a Toyota truck/SUV. We haven't even seen significant numbers of these vehicles get into the higher mileage/age range yet, so there may be more surprises to come. Not saying they aren't great to drive, or that many might not have had issues (yet), but thus far they are much worse than any previous generation/powerplant.

That’s all we drive. I had 3100 miles on my tundra. Lost 1500 bucks. Didn’t think that was terrible at all.

Even with the 3700 2024 gx 550 recalled, not one spun main bearing reported in 2024-2026 gx550. Yet there are 1000s of tundras that blew up.

Something is drastically different. Ecu tuning, lack of pre ignition detonation in the gx, fuel mapping, etc.

Butttt as much as I love yota, they shit the bed on the engine issues for these tundras, I’m glad I got ride of mine, we love our gx.

Ps, all the land cruisers do not have the v35a, they all the hybrid 2.4. That would kill gx sales, hence why it’s also not in the 4Runner.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

The new fj is also getting the 2.4. It’s now in 16-17 vehicles. Numerous Lexus have 200k trouble free miles on the orgin turbos as well, but the 2.4 in the tacos is built even stronger with thicker cylinder walls, larger coolant passages, bigger oil cooler.

My uncle is a retired master tech for Lexus. He told me don’t buy a tundra and I did like an idiot lol.