Toaks question

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I am wanting to get a toaks pot for tea to use on my windmaster for quicker hunts where I’m not cooking anything. My question was this: would you suggest a 750 pot and a cup or just a cup or just the pot and drink from the pot? I’m just soloing as usual so I don’t need anything crazy. Just enough for a tea and possibly rehydrate something.
 
I use a toaks 650 for heating water. A separate plastic msr mug for sipping from. It’s a weird trapezoidal shape. Double wall and weighs next to nothing. I like to enjoy my coffee rather than struggling to find the narrow window between burning my hands and lips and a cold cup.
 
We have a couple of the Toaks 750 cups with the lids. The lids usually stay at home. The cups are pretty useful for what you want, and they fit nicely on a Nalgene bottle to save space.
 
I use a 650 Toaks and hot lips. A 100 gram fuel cell, small stove (Pocket Rocket size or similar), lips and lighter, all easily for inside. Also, pretty hard to beat the wt.
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I like carrying all my stuff together in one pot just like that. I use a GSI solo halulite for cooking during longer outings and late season but I just wanted a light pot to boil water. I see they have the smaller cups for one cup of coffee or tea so wasn’t sure if y’all were using a pot and a cup or just a pot. I know the cups fit in the pots but I’m not sure you can put your stove and fuel cell, etc....with the cup in there.
 
I have several of these types of stoves, including a Soto Amicus, and they will all fit in the 650 with fuel etc. I don’t have a WindMaster, but I think they fold up/break down to about the same size, although I’m not 100% sure about that.


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I use a 650 Toaks and hot lips. A 100 gram fuel cell, small stove (Pocket Rocket size or similar), lips and lighter, all easily for inside. Also, pretty hard to beat the wt.
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Is that the BRS3000? Mine is going into its fourth year and is yet to cause me any grief. Best $30 I spent
 
Is that the BRS3000? Mine is going into its fourth year and is yet to cause me any grief. Best $30 I spent

Yeah it is. They got pretty bad reviews on BPL for being too flimsy and the pot supports melting. I think that was because they were doing high stress tests, with bigger pots of water and having the burners turned to max., for extended periods of time. I’ve only had mine for about a year or so, and so far so good. You can pretty much buy them all day long on Amazon now for about $16.
BRS Outdoor Camping Gas Cooking Stove Portable Ultralight Burner 25g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0NG4CbXNFV499


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Not using the goals but I went through a similar battle trying to find the perfect size and I collect backpack cooking gear like most guys do with knives...

I’ve tried the 500, 600 and 750 Ml size pots from various brands but find that it’s never quite enough water

I do a lot of backpacking outside hunting and try to go ultralight as much as possible.

The 2 best I have for solo use where I might heat up a meal and a hot drink are the snow peak solo set https://snowpeak.com/products/ti-mini-solo-combo-scs-004t on really ultra light tips I only bring the pot, pour the water into my meal bag then mix my drink with the rest and drink straight from the pot. Possible but somewhat of a pain.

Pros are that it all nests together without making a lot of noise in the pack. Holds my fuel, Soto micro regulator, windscreen and Optimus spoon.

Holds ample amount of water for a meal and a small coffee.

Cons are that it’s still kind of bulky in the pack.

More often than not I’m using this sea to summit combo. The kettle and mug nest together and hold an MSR folding spork, small piece of microfibre cloth, sponge and some seasoning inside. Super compact and light.

Downside is that it’s not a self contained kit like you’re looking at.



Either of these set ups make enough water that I can heat up a big meal (I make my own so qty varies) with a hot drink and sometimes a little warm water left for a whores bath.
 
Not using the goals but I went through a similar battle trying to find the perfect size and I collect backpack cooking gear like most guys do with knives...

I’ve tried the 500, 600 and 750 Ml size pots from various brands but find that it’s never quite enough water

I do a lot of backpacking outside hunting and try to go ultralight as much as possible.

The 2 best I have for solo use where I might heat up a meal and a hot drink are the snow peak solo set https://snowpeak.com/products/ti-mini-solo-combo-scs-004t on really ultra light tips I only bring the pot, pour the water into my meal bag then mix my drink with the rest and drink straight from the pot. Possible but somewhat of a pain.

Pros are that it all nests together without making a lot of noise in the pack. Holds my fuel, Soto micro regulator, windscreen and Optimus spoon.

Holds ample amount of water for a meal and a small coffee.

Cons are that it’s still kind of bulky in the pack.

More often than not I’m using this sea to summit combo. The kettle and mug nest together and hold an MSR folding spork, small piece of microfibre cloth, sponge and some seasoning inside. Super compact and light.

Downside is that it’s not a self contained kit like you’re looking at.



Either of these set ups make enough water that I can heat up a big meal (I make my own so qty varies) with a hot drink and sometimes a little warm water left for a whores bath.


Great info. I do a lot of day hikes and backpacking when I can get time away from the restaurant so like you I like to stay as light as I can with certain things. I’ve always integrated to keep everything together but am totally open to new ways of thinking as well. I love sea to summit products. Currently I’ve been messing with the GSI Halulite series. I like how everything fits but sometimes I just want something a bit lighter just for boiling instead of cooking. Quick trips, glassing, day hiking with the dogs and scouting etc.....
 
Great info. I do a lot of day hikes and backpacking when I can get time away from the restaurant so like you I like to stay as light as I can with certain things. I’ve always integrated to keep everything together but am totally open to new ways of thinking as well. I love sea to summit products. Currently I’ve been messing with the GSI Halulite series. I like how everything fits but sometimes I just want something a bit lighter just for boiling instead of cooking. Quick trips, glassing, day hiking with the dogs and scouting etc.....

Awesome. I have a haululite boiler somewhere in the mix too. I think it’s a bit lighter than the sea to summit combo but I love how compact that gets. I’m a coffee addict and that’s what I got for a day hike / scouting coffee solution. If need be I can haul the set up in a cargo pocket. Little lumpy with the fuel can but doable. I relay can’t complain if I can carry a hot coffee everywhere I go.

That xkettle has seen a lot of use. A lot hahaha. The reviews I saw online had people complaining about the lid warping but I haven’t had that happen.

The only thing worth cautioning is that you can’t use the stove on full blast because the flames can creep up the silicon sides. I haven’t noticed a loss in fuel efficiency but it does take an extra minute of a low burn to get the water rolling. For a drink I seldom go rolling boil so I can pour and drink ASAP.
 
Heard that. Do you prefer just to drink from the pot all the time or will you bring a separate cup? I like the hot lips idea. I was also thinking a smaller toaks or snow peak ti cup I could just boil in and use for tea even though the stove and fuel won’t integrate. Not sure that’s worth it or not
 
I also use the imusa 12cm. Here it is with the bushbuddy ti woodstove. Weight between this woodstove or a fuel canister with the brs is similar. The canister stove is way faster to boil with though.

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The hot lips is a must for any of the metal pots / mugs. Game changer for burnt lips and a hard, slow lesson learned.

I keep one of the gsi silicon pot grippers on hand too. Pulls double duty for my stove in the tipi.

I have done trips where I just use the pot for everything. I switch things up quite a bit food wise. I usually dehydrate my own meals, some I rehydrate in the bag. If I’m doing meals that need to rehydrate or simmer in the pot I bring an extra cup. That was where i settled on the snow peak set for lightweight and nesting.

Basically my theory is:

Freezer bag / mountain house meals - pot only

Simmering or cooking - Pot and mug

For some fishing trips I even throw in an evernew titanium frying pan to cook up the snack sized ones
 
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