Tikka T3 too light

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Mitigate the recoil at the bench, you will not notice the recoil in the field! THIS is the issue I personally have with the "what suppressor or brake should I use" phenomena in hunting today. A 6.5 CM shooting a 140 gr bullet and burning 40-ish grains of powder needs recoil relief? Or at least that's what a lot of people talk about. No wonder a 7mm Rem Mag scares guys for a game shot in the field. Everything they've heard is recoil is a bad thing and you won't be able to hit the broadside if a barn. The mental element is very powerful influencing the equation.
 

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I have a 7.2 lb tikka after a heavy vortex razor lht scope on it in 300wsm. I got a brake put on, before a box of 20 and I was flinching a bit at the range, now I will do 80 to 100 in a longer session.

I simply take the brake off, confirm my poi are the same at the rages and I go hunting. Never felt the recoil when hunting.
 

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There’s no getting past the fact that recoil influences accuracy. I shoot my 17hmr better than any rifle I own. That said, brakes are loud and pose a hazard to you and anyone around you. I don’t like them. Either learn to shoot the tikka as is, add some weight and see if that helps, or step down in caliber.
 
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OP, what do you do to mitigate recoil at the bench?

Did the recoil calculation for my M70, 9.5 lb 270 Win shooting a 110 gr TTSX at 3350fps calculated with a dose gr of RL19 (my load, worked up). 15.73 ft/lbs. that's about the most pussycat shooting load I can come up with from what I've taken elk with.

7.5 lb 6.5 CM with 44 gr pushing a 140 gr bullet to 2730 fps (Nosler Data), 15.34 ft/lbs. And guys get all excited about what suppressor or brake to run.

7.5 lb all-up rifle in 7mm Rem Mag and 150 gr bullet at 3200 fps has 27.73 ft/lb recoil, 35 Whelen/AI in an 8.2 lb rifle with a 200 gr TTSX has 31 ft/lb shooting a 200 TTSX at 2945 fps. Sure, these are relatively more than the others mentioned above, but it's for most likely ONE shot in the field. I mitigate the recoil at the bench sensibly to shoot it plenty of times each year and it's helped take 13 elk and a handful of mule deer.
 

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Anyone not like the weight of their T3x in harder hitting cartridges ? My 7 rem mag is straight up unpleasant to shoot to the point where I start flinching and loose confidence . My 6.5 man bun that’s a pound heavier in the Bergaras a breeze . Really really don’t want to brake it ? Anyone add weight with any success ? Not opposed to an aftermarket stock but don’t need to spend 500 dollars for one either . 200 range sounds fair . Have a limbsaver on it already . Trying to love it but wonder if I shouldn’t just cut my losses !


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I bought one in 30 06 this past year and had the same thoughts, but I didn’t notice it while taking the shot in the field.
 
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Really?? You got to be f*****g kidding, right? You bought a T3 Lite (which isn’t really all that light), and you have a difficult time dealing with the recoil? Sell it and buy something that’s much heavier for the caliber you’d like to shoot. Or you could carry around a 5 lb. sack of sand and hang that off the barrel for whenever you get ready to shoot something.


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I’m new to bolt shooting. Have a 308 which is a joy to shoot. I’ve been considering a 7RM or 300wm Tikka myself. Stories of tikkas (including one from a friend that has shot those calibers all his life) recoiling super hard, are pushing me away. I understand you don’t feel it hunting but it’s be nice to practice with it a bunch.
 
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Really?? You got to be f*****g kidding, right? You bought a T3 Lite (which isn’t really all that light), and you have a difficult time dealing with the recoil? Sell it and buy something that’s much heavier for the caliber you’d like to shoot. Or you could carry around a 5 lb. sack of sand and hang that off the barrel for whenever you get ready to shoot something.


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Yes f***ing really . Just being honest with it . I’ve shot it Atleast 200 times . First 30 or so trying to find the load it likes . I’ve killed a Muley with it no problem . But When it comes to shooting off the bench - the 3-4 shot groups show I’m not nearly as accurate with it as the 6.5 , 22-250 , 243 ect . Originally wanted a lighter magnum for elk . Seems I got some guys panties in a wad in this thread .


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I get you OP. I don’t understand suffering through a gun that recoils harder than other guns of the same caliber. I get manning up but I also get being able to practice and enjoy it.
 

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Spend the money and get a muzzle brake installed. Love the weight of tikkas but they are unpleasant to shoot in magnum calibers until you put a brake on them.
 
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I would brake it or sell it. There are only a handful of people who can realistically tolerate recoil like that. Most people develop a flinch which leads to poor marksmanship and wounded animals. These guys saying suck it up are just flat wrong IMO…you will always have that recoil in the back of your mind when you get ready to pull the trigger…especially if you have been scoped.
 
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Sounds like sell it . Thanks for the advice . Group sizes I can shoot a nice nickel sized group with the smaller cartridges . The magnum will be 1 moa one day , the next I’ll have a flyer 3 inches off the group of 2 . I’ve tried the cool barrel and different scope and mounts .


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Sounds like sell it . Thanks for the advice . Group sizes I can shoot a nice nickel sized group with the smaller cartridges . The magnum will be 1 moa one day , the next I’ll have a flyer 3 inches off the group of 2 . I’ve tried the cool barrel and different scope and mounts .


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Thanks, that's being honest with yourself. Definitely want to be confident with your ability and have confidence in the rifle.

One thing to add, are you able to call the flyer because of a flinch? Is it a random flyer or the same number shot when this happens?

Not saying this is the case, could there be something with the rifle itself (not the scope/mount) that causes the flyer (besides recoil), as you've described it as inconsistent from day to day.
 
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Just be prepared to drop some distance off of your max range with the 6.5. No cartridge is magic, least of all that one.
SBC light ballistic calculator data:
6.5 CM, 140 gr Accubond at 2660 fps drops below 1500 ft lbs at 385 yds. I’d limit shots on elk to that range under ideal conditions. Zeroed at 225 yards your MPBR on a 6” target is 265 yards. Drop at 385 yds is 18”.
 
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Thanks, that's being honest with yourself. Definitely want to be confident with your ability and have confidence in the rifle.

One thing to add, are you able to call the flyer because of a flinch? Is it a random flyer or the same number shot when this happens?

Not saying this is the case, could there be something with the rifle itself (not the scope/mount) that causes the flyer (besides recoil), as you've described it as inconsistent from day to day.

I’m not sure - I haven’t shot it in months . I did take it out the stock , make sure recoil lug was sitting right and tightened the actions though .


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