Tikka 6.5 Creed 20" Load data

Ice_man

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Anybody running a load for this setup? recently picked up a 20" Tikka and while it loves factory 147 eldm, I can't help but want to see if I can gain any speed out of it. That load is going 2520 FPS. I'm also open to running other bullets as well. Things like the 130 TMK, 140 ELDM, & 143 ELDX. I already have an assortment of h4350 and a box of 143 ELDX, but I'm curious what kind of velocities people are getting with handloads in a 20" barrel. Thanks!

Edit - I'm planning on starting to reload on this within the coming months. I will be sure to update and post my findings here.
 
Bought one (t3x 20" 6.5cm) this summer. I went straight to RL16 for my powder for the very technical reason that I had ~2lbs of it and nothing that I need to use it in. Put another way, there are other powders that would work; I used what I had.

20" Tikka, Peterson LRP brass with CCI LR BR primers, seated to 2.93"ish which put the 147eldm close to 0.060" off the lands which is where I like to try to stay. New brass, 42.3 grains of RL16 gave me 2610'. After the first firing, the now-1x fired brass with 42.0 gives me the same speed.

Based on what I see when I put this load into Gordon's Reloading Tool I believe that I could push it up to around 2650' velocity at safe pressure and that's what I saw early on when I pushed the powder charge a bit. I don't remember details, but I saw a faint ejector mark at a heavier charge that went 2660' IIRC.

I have also considered trying to switch to RL23. I think I could beat 2700' with that powder, but I am trying to hoard what I have for use elsewhere. 2600' is plenty for what I do with the rifle.

I don't have notes at my fingertips but ES/SD with new brass was something like 45 and 15; with 1x fired brass it has been maybe 25' and 10'. Point being, it tightened up with formed brass.

ETA: the only other loads I've shot have been the Nosler 123CC and the Hornady 130ELDM over 38.0 of IMR4895. I shot those just to have a gentle load for my eight year old's introduction to the rifle, and to burn up the handful of the 123s I had left over from a long-gone other project. I will likely use up the rest of the 130s with the same powder for practice ammo for the kids.
 
Just posted this on another post
6.5 cm 19” tikka suppressed
130 tmk
43 gr h4350
Starline brass large rifle primer
2.826” oal
2745

I had to back off from 43.5gr that originally weren’t showing any pressure signs.

Pretty common for some guys to run 43.5-44 h4350 behind 130’s though.

factory hornady 147’s shot somewhere around the mid 2500’s for me.
 
Bought one (t3x 20" 6.5cm) this summer. I went straight to RL16 for my powder for the very technical reason that I had ~2lbs of it and nothing that I need to use it in. Put another way, there are other powders that would work; I used what I had.

20" Tikka, Peterson LRP brass with CCI LR BR primers, seated to 2.93"ish which put the 147eldm close to 0.060" off the lands which is where I like to try to stay. New brass, 42.3 grains of RL16 gave me 2610'. After the first firing, the now-1x fired brass with 42.0 gives me the same speed.

Based on what I see when I put this load into Gordon's Reloading Tool I believe that I could push it up to around 2650' velocity at safe pressure and that's what I saw early on when I pushed the powder charge a bit. I don't remember details, but I saw a faint ejector mark at a heavier charge that went 2660' IIRC.

I have also considered trying to switch to RL23. I think I could beat 2700' with that powder, but I am trying to hoard what I have for use elsewhere. 2600' is plenty for what I do with the rifle.

I don't have notes at my fingertips but ES/SD with new brass was something like 45 and 15; with 1x fired brass it has been maybe 25' and 10'. Point being, it tightened up with formed brass.

ETA: the only other loads I've shot have been the Nosler 123CC and the Hornady 130ELDM over 38.0 of IMR4895. I shot those just to have a gentle load for my eight year old's introduction to the rifle, and to burn up the handful of the 123s I had left over from a long-gone other project. I will likely use up the rest of the 130s with the same powder for practice ammo for the kids.
Any idea how temp stable RL16 & RL23 are? I haven't dabbled in the RL powders yet.
 
Just posted this on another post
6.5 cm 19” tikka suppressed
130 tmk
43 gr h4350
Starline brass large rifle primer
2.826” oal
2745

I had to back off from 43.5gr that originally weren’t showing any pressure signs.

Pretty common for some guys to run 43.5-44 h4350 behind 130’s though.

factory hornady 147’s shot somewhere around the mid 2500’s for me.
This is why I think I'm leaning towards the 130. Whats interesting is in my calc both hit 1800 fps still around the 800 yard mark, but while the ELDM is falling less dramatically, the 130 is about 2 MOA flatter in bullet correction.
 
Any idea how temp stable RL16 & RL23 are? I haven't dabbled in the RL powders yet.
Alliant advertises both 16 and 23 as being very temp-stable but I haven't personally attempted to quantify that, I just bought them on the assumption that they were being honest. I had shied away from Alliant powders before that, because 22 and 19 were known to be really temp-sensitive and I'd seen spikes with 19. I still have a half pound of 19 that'll end up as fertilizer one day. But I do believe that they got it right with 16 and 23, but that's only based on me shooting and noting extremely flat vertical dispersion between cold bore and hot rifle, on warm days, at ranges to 500 with the 6.5cm Tikka and RL16 and 1000 and sometimes further with RL23 and my .280ai. So, yeah, they claim that both 16 and 23 are very temp stable, but I'd be lying if I said I'd tried to quantify that in any way. I can only say I've seen no problems from it myself in those two calibers (6.5cm 147eldm with 16 and 280ai 162eldx or 160 NAB with 23. I use VV n565 for my 180eldm loads in .280ai).
 
Lapua SRP
140 eldm
43.0gr Win staball 6.5
2.217 B.T.O
CCI 450
2720 out of a 20” barrel
This load has shot very well for me in every barrel I’ve ever ran it through so far.
 
24” factory barrel chopped to 20”

I’m getting 2620 with 143 eldx over h4350. I have room to push harder but it shoots well.
 
Spicy load but shoots well with three Tikkas. Work up to it in hot weather.

18" Tikka T3X
147 ELDMs
Lapua SRP Brass (have also done with LRP)
43.0 grains H4350
Seated out to 2.9" COAL (just fits inside M+ mag)
2640 fps
~0.8MOA for 10 shots
 
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