The Shoot2hunt Podcast

[rafiki]

painless load dev thread is good on the process but if you’ve never reloaded I’d at least get a manual to understand the basics of what you’re doing and how to do it safely. archived pdfs of older versions are available online.

 

[T_Widdy]

@Q_Sertorius

This thing works petty good if you have lots of cases to prime. Have to buy primer tubes and case holders separately

Amazon.com : DERRACO ENGINEERING Poorman's PCPS-LITE Precision Priming die/Primer Seating Tool : Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com : DERRACO ENGINEERING Poorman's PCPS-LITE Precision Priming die/Primer Seating Tool : Sports & Outdoors

www.amazon.com

 

[swavescatter]

The primer info fell a bit short. Jake said CCI didn't offer Match primers, but later referenced the Benchrest primers. No info on the new White River primers? Also, no discussion on small rifle primer selection which could be beneficial for new reloaders, especially with the 223 popularity here. In short, go CCI as those 205's are SOFT. Love me some CCI 450's too.

If I do upgrade my priming setup (RCBS universal hand, but I also have the FA Platinum) I'd take a hard look at the new Hornady bench primer system.

 

[Gstew1930]

The primer info fell a bit short. Jake said CCI didn't offer Match primers, but later referenced the Benchrest primers. No info on the new White River primers? Also, no discussion on small rifle primer selection which could be beneficial for new reloaders, especially with the 223 popularity here. In short, go CCI as those 205's are SOFT. Love me some CCI 450's too.

If I do upgrade my priming setup (RCBS universal hand, but I also have the FA Platinum) I'd take a hard look at the new Hornady bench primer system.

White River small rifle have opened up quite a few people's groups. If you havent bought them id avoid them

 

[swavescatter]

White River small rifle have opened up quite a few people's groups. If you havent bought them id avoid them

On a podcast long ago Jake implied that they were getting impressive results from the LRP's. I've never tried them, but was curious...

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Jake started to talk about it and then squirreled out and didnt come back to it

 

[Q_Sertorius]

White River small rifle have opened up quite a few people's groups. If you havent bought them id avoid them

What kind of groups got opened up? 3-shot groups? Or “real” groups?

 

[Gstew1930]

What kind of groups got opened up? 3-shot groups? Or “real” groups?

30. Went from 1.5 to 2.4". You wont see me post a three shot group

 

[Formidilosus]

What kind of groups got opened up? 3-shot groups? Or “real” groups?

White River has been bad for me- 100+fps ES over 10 shot strings, groups 50 to 100% larger than any other primer as well. Though one gun did shoot them very well.

 

[wind gypsy]

Can’t bring myself to listen to Jake talk about reloading.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Hahah. It doesn’t matter. An RCBS hand priming tool makes as accurate ammo as anything else. Don’t let reloading dorks, get you dorking out about things that do not matter.

Forms nemesis....

 

[Ryan Avery]

We are gonna do a clean vs dirty reloading showdown.

 

[Formidilosus]

We are gonna do a clean vs dirty reloading showdown.

I like my shooting odds.

 

[Ryan Avery]

I like my shooting odds.

Your team dirty.

 

[blue_ridge]

I like my rcbs bench primer because my hand priming tool make my hand tired, so I'd rather let a lever do the hard part for me

I like the RCBS bench primer also. I usually get 5 shot groups with SD’s below 10 fps, sometimes below 5fps. So I don’t think a fancier priming tool will help much. Also, you get into a rhythm hand priming cases so each one feels the same.

 

[Gstew1930]

White River has been bad for me- 100+fps ES over 10 shot strings, groups 50 to 100% larger than any other primer as well. Though one gun did shoot them very well.

I havent thought to try them in other rifles. I have 8k so fingers crossed

 

[gabenzeke]

Anybody catch when the raven action based rifles will be available? I swear they said it and tried to listen to a couple old episodes but can't find it.

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[id_jon]

I like the RCBS bench primer also. I usually get 5 shot groups with SD’s below 10 fps, sometimes below 5fps. So I don’t think a fancier priming tool will help much. Also, you get into a rhythm hand priming cases so each one feels the same.

Yep, I think an sd of 10 is about the worst I ever see in any of my 6.5cms for any sample size, so any "better" priming tool would be a waste. I don't usually pay close attention to time, but I think I'm roughly 7-8 minutes to go from 100 unprimed cases, primers in their box, to primed cases in a loading block. The hand primer might be a bit faster, but like I said, it hurts my fingers since I usually do 3-500 at a time lol

 

[JDMBEND]

In the Powder and Primers episode, Jake and Ryan mentioned some different primer seating tools at the end. I'll accept the premise that a tool which allows the user to set the depth and come to a hard stop is going to be more consistent than one that requires on hand pressure (like the Lee AutoPrime I have used for the past 30 years). So, I think it is probably worth upgrading that part of my setup. I personally don't reload enough to justify the gold-plated Cadillac of priming tools, but it looks phenomonal.

They listed a couple of options at different price points.

The very expensive option ($695, before adding shell holders and accessories): https://primalrights.com/usa/product/products/priming-equipment/cps

A budget option ($185 with one shellholder, $16.50 for each additional shellholder): https://21stcenturyinnovation.com/b...k-head-bench-rest-priming-tool/v/1206-GIII-01

Another budget option ($120, plus $20 per shell holder): https://www.brownells.com/reloading...ng-tools/sinclair-priming-tool/?sku=749007603

My thoughts on the two "budget" options are summed up pretty well in this review of the Sinclair:
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They didn't mention anything cheaper than that, but I am curious about one cheaper option, mostly because it is a lot cheaper and has a tray so I wouldn't have to put in each primer individually (FML). Has anyone used this?

https://www.brownells.com/reloading/reloading-tools/priming-tools/platinum-series-perfect-seat-hand-primer/?recommendedIdList=2230193068903

Is there some other option I am missing that has a primer feed?

The Frankford Arsenal unit works great for me and it’s adjustable. No way I’m paying $600 for a primer tool.

 

[JDMBEND]

I bought 1000 White River primers during a panic buy. FML