The Shoot2hunt Podcast

[khuber84]

Wouldn't that be encompassed in the velocity portion of the equation?

I don't know, kinda why I asked? Less powder burnt at higher pressure VS more powder burnt at lower pressure with same bullet going same speed.

I guess a 7BC VS a long throat 7mag with a 180 going the same speed from same weight rifle. Put em on a recoil sled and see where they land, this will be the only way to really tell.

I wonder how suppressor manufacturers are gonna rate their cans with these high psi cases. Maybe it won't be a thing. It could be more based up gas volume/powder charge volumes and not psi at all. Because as cases get larger, barrel length ratings get longer. The 80-85k psi peak alloy cases is a new realm. They have them in 223/556 now too, getting 300fps faster than standard 223. That puts it at 22gt/22 creed velocity.

 

[NSI]

Chamber pressure is not felt at the shoulder. As many here have correctly stated, the total mass and velocity of the projectile and powder (relative to the mass of the total closed system) are solely responsible for felt recoil.

-J

 

[wind gypsy]

20k psi higher chamber pressure will likely be higher muzzle pressures right? More muzzle pressure will be added recoil.

I posted actual #'s from recoil calculator earlier in this thread. No idea what actual charge weight would be for the 7BC, likely higher than 55 so the gap may not be that significant but it paints the picture of charge weight impact on recoil.

On the 7 Backcountry episode it was indicated multiple times that a bullet at a given velocity = recoil. Statements seemed to be discarding claims that a 7 BC would offer less recoil than a traditional 62-65k PSI round that burns more powder to get same velocity. That stance ignores powder charge weight @Unknown Munitions . If a round is burning less powder to push the same bullet at the same velocity, recoil energy is going to be less because there is less weight of powder being pushed out the front of the barrel. Every recoil calculator I've seen accounts for powder charge. Example below that in theory could represent a 7 BC vs 7 PRC pushing same bullet at same velocity from a rifle weighing the same. Not trying to say federal is or isn't juicing the #'s but rather there is some validity to having less recoil as a biproduct of higher pressures with smaller cases.

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[BjornF16]

I will say that I'm pretty psyched for this raven action! If I understand correctly nitride will come standard? Additionally how does form feel about the triggertech triggers for tikkas? I've heard good things about the KRG midas. But not much past that in terms of aftermarket options.

Since they do a Titanium action already, wonder if they could do the Raven in Ti?

 

[Brontosaurus]

Since they do a Titanium action already, wonder if they could do the Raven in Ti?

That'd be awesome... I imagine it'd affect the smoothness when you cycle it though

 

[Procision Arms]

I will say that I'm pretty psyched for this raven action! If I understand correctly nitride will come standard? Additionally how does form feel about the triggertech triggers for tikkas? I've heard good things about the KRG midas. But not much past that in terms of aftermarket options.

Yes, nitriding will be standard on both models.

 

[Procision Arms]

Since they do a Titanium action already, wonder if they could do the Raven in Ti?

We’re going to at least try it, just to see how it functions, if nothing else, we like to experiment

 

[IDVortex]

Could you guys do a episode of why the MRC rifle is a better purchase than let's say a Fierce rifle?

Bit random I know.

 

[huntnful]

Could you guys do a episode of why the MRC rifle is a better purchase than let's say a Fierce rifle?

Bit random I know.

Their barrels have rifling hahaha.

 

[khuber84]

Yes, nitriding will be standard on both models.

I'm curious if the Procision Shop is the same company that was producing TL Technologies action years back?