The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

[Shortschaf]

Note the Chadd Wright link I shared in post #936, Man's Ability To Choose.

Incidentally, Chadd Wright was interviewed on Joe Rogan a few days ago. The lesson here is to all of the Christians on this thread trying to force-feed Jesus to non-believers.

No matter what side of the chasm any of you are on, here's a short summary video on the JRE episode. Only need to listen to the first minute - your decision to jump off or keep paddling...

Seeing other men leading good lives is what got my attention and made me look into my faith more.

Only when I looked into it myself did it start to make sense, became spiritually alive, and the Bible started to read like English, etc etc

Words by others, no matter how well meaning, deflected right off me. Unless I came to that person to learn, I am too thick skulled for that

 

[eddielasvegas]

I'll be confident in my pick of God the Father, Jesus Christ The Son, and The Holy Spirit for eternity.

For the question of my eternal life, I'd want more than confidence.

I wish you good confidence in your choice @NVUplandHunter


Eddie

 

[Jason Snyder]

“Then he said to them, “Anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalf welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me also welcomes my Father who sent me. Whoever is the least among you is the greatest.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9‬:‭48‬ ‭NLT‬‬

 

[Hill Difficulty]

Seeing other men leading good lives is what got my attention and made me look into my faith more.

Only when I looked into it myself did it start to make sense, became spiritually alive, and the Bible started to read like English, etc etc

Words by others, no matter how well meaning, deflected right off me. Unless I came to that person to learn, I am too thick skulled for that

Your post causes me to ask a question to all of the Jesus guys who read this:

Is your life telling the truth about who Jesus is?

Consider your posts on this forum, your actions/conduct, your commitment to your wife/children/family, your neediness and praise, your response in all degrees of circumstances whether joy or suffering.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Your

Your post causes me to ask a question to all of the Jesus guys who read this:

Is your life telling the truth about who Jesus is?

Consider your posts on this forum, your actions/conduct, your commitment to your wife/children/family, your neediness and praise, your response in all degrees of circumstances whether joy or suffering.

This is gold…

 

[Texasbuckeye]

Note the Chadd Wright link I shared in post #936, Man's Ability To Choose.

Incidentally, Chadd Wright was interviewed on Joe Rogan a few days ago. The lesson here is to all of the Christians on this thread trying to force-feed Jesus to non-believers.

No matter what side of the chasm any of you are on, here's a short summary video on the JRE episode. Only need to listen to the first minute - at that point it's your decision to jump off or keep paddling...

Good video, and while I have some issues with the strict calvinistic view that Chadd takes, I am not here to argue that at all.

I have not really seen any one trying to force feed any thing to any one on this thread. Quite the reverse, it has been "here is what I have experienced and I pray that the Holy Spirit shows you something similar"

I may be seeing something different form you though, so please do not take this as any "why did you post this" kind of comment, more just my observations of this thread as it has moved along.

 

[Texasbuckeye]

For the question of my eternal life, I'd want more than confidence.

I wish you good confidence in your choice @NVUplandHunter


Eddie

Eddie, what is your view of eternal life? My understanding from your posts is you are a non-believer and there is no eternal life, only life on this earth and thats it. Just the quiet blackness of non-existance after.

Am I wrong with that?

 

[eddielasvegas]

Eddie, what is your view of eternal life? My understanding from your posts is you are a non-believer and there is no eternal life, only life on this earth and thats it. Just the quiet blackness of non-existance after.

Am I wrong with that?

You are not wrong, but let me elaborate.

After we die, we have the same life/awareness/you name it/ as we did before we were born, which is nothing or as you call it, quiet blackness.

Said another way, do we have awareness before we become a zygote, or even after, but before birth? Of course not. But wait, why not? I mean if we can have life after death then why not life, at the very least, before we are born, or since god is all knowing and powwerful, why not life before conception?

If life after death is possible, then certainly life before birth is possible.


Eddie

 

[Texasbuckeye]

You are not wrong, but let me elaborate.

After we die, we have the same life/awareness/you name it/ as we did before we were born, which is nothing or as you call it, quiet blackness.

Said another way, do we have awareness before we become a zygote, or even after, but before borth? Of course not. But wait, why not? I mean if we can have life after death then why not life, at the very least, before we are born, or since god is all knowing and powwerful, why not life before conception?

If life after death is possible, then certainly life before birth is possible.


Eddie

So you are acknowledging God as all knowing and all powerful, but yet say in the same post you are also acknowledging you are a non-believer (in Jesus as the redemtion/salvation, or what do you not believe in ?)...

This has me struck as very confusing. You are a believing non-believer?

Based upon your post, I am going to say you believe in a higher power, but do not take the christian belief that Jesus is the way truth and light...

Am I wrong on that?

 

[Shortschaf]

As for why there is no eternal life before birth--that is an easy answer compared to the other two concepts (1: we have souls, 2: eternal life after death)

We are not Gods. We must be created by something, at some time.

 

[Texasbuckeye]

Dang, you guys got the punch line before i could walk eddie to it…if we have life before we were born, then why are we born at all? This questions if we are all not just some eternal beings ourselves, which some would call gods. If we are all gods, then why do any of us die and why are we “living” and “dying” on this world if we are gods. So many ideas to play with….

Bottom line, it gets to playing god. There are a lot of former cultures that did and at least one religion still that portrays that exact idea.

 

[eddielasvegas]

So you are acknowledging God as all knowing and all powerful, but yet say in the same post you are also acknowledging you are a non-believer (in Jesus as the redemtion/salvation, or what do you not believe in ?)...

This has me struck as very confusing. You are a believing non-believer?

Based upon your post, I am going to say you believe in a higher power, but do not take the christian belief that Jesus is the way truth and light...

Am I wrong on that?

My apologies for the confusion as I can see how omitting "your" before "god" in the second to last paragraph might cause you to see something that is not there given your tunnel vistion on this matter. I'm simply echoing what you, and many others, on this thread believe of your god, and in fact every god. Can they all be right?

I certainly do not believe in any god (pick one, but I hope you've picked the right one or it's going to be a long and hot eternal life in hell for you) without evicence of such. Bring me a jar of godly (nod to Ricky for this) and we'll see where the evidence of godly leads us. It may lead me to join your team or it may confirm what's I've thought since I've been about 12 years old and could put my two brain cells together to form an evidence based conviction on a topic.

I'm a student of life and still learning everyday if I'm lucky so please bring me that jar.



Eddie