The Auodad dilemma!

[Amos Keeto]

Same, same with the nilgai in the RGV.

 

[hunt1up]

I certainly get mixed messages from WSF on Aoudad. Here's an article from their website citing the issues with Aoudad: https://www.wildsheepfoundation.org...r/10-things-hunters-need-to-know-about-aoudad

But then, I'm at the Sheep Show two years back and they have their lunch where they give out awards to all the biggest animals killed in the past year. I find the event off-putting but I digress. If you come to the lunch you get a raffle ticket and they pull a winner at the end. The lucky winner gets a premium guided Aoudad hunt! Nice!

I'd like to be an optimist and think things can be reversed. But there's just no way. Not when a guided Aoudad hunt costs a guy $8,000. There's too much money in it and that's just the reality.

 

[cuerro viejo]

They've allowed a bison hunt on Grand Canyon NP. Maybe one day it will be bad enough they'll allow barbary hunting on Big Bend...


What do you mean?


Well, if anyone needs some Auodad culled, I've got a wife and three kids willing to travel....

Have you ever hunted aoudads? Killing 5 out of a herd of 100 plus isn’t controlling population it’s still with in natural mortality %.

We have culled hundreds of ewes from the ground, and still can’t kill them out . No different then hogs, you have to do YEARLY via air and trapping. it’s the only way todo successfully effective mass reduction

 

[cuerro viejo]

I certainly get mixed messages from WSF on Aoudad. Here's an article from their website citing the issues with Aoudad: https://www.wildsheepfoundation.org...r/10-things-hunters-need-to-know-about-aoudad

But then, I'm at the Sheep Show two years back and they have their lunch where they give out awards to all the biggest animals killed in the past year. I find the event off-putting but I digress. If you come to the lunch you get a raffle ticket and they pull a winner at the end. The lucky winner gets a premium guided Aoudad hunt! Nice!

I'd like to be an optimist and think things can be reversed. But there's just no way. Not when a guided Aoudad hunt costs a guy $8,000. There's too much money in it and that's just the reality.

I love hunting aoudad but hate them… with that said DBHS range even at its peak was an extremely minute part of the 35 million acres of Transpecos, that is not even counting 20 million plus acres of panhandle and 20 million plus acres of the Hill country that aoudad also roam. Now factor in of that 75million acres the public land amounts to a touch over million acres with Big Bend being 800k of that.

If I’m a rancher in panhandle and I never have a chance to have DBHS, And I sell 13 aoudad hunts a year…that’s another 100K in revenue… that’s a lot of fence and water improvements, now that’s not counting in the cost of those aoudad being on or passing through your ranch. It’s a significant decrease in cattle grazing ability, water usage and fence costs. But you get the drift.

 

[Amos Keeto]

I certainly get mixed messages from WSF on Aoudad. Here's an article from their website citing the issues with Aoudad: https://www.wildsheepfoundation.org...r/10-things-hunters-need-to-know-about-aoudad

But then, I'm at the Sheep Show two years back and they have their lunch where they give out awards to all the biggest animals killed in the past year. I find the event off-putting but I digress. If you come to the lunch you get a raffle ticket and they pull a winner at the end. The lucky winner gets a premium guided Aoudad hunt! Nice!

I'd like to be an optimist and think things can be reversed. But there's just no way. Not when a guided Aoudad hunt costs a guy $8,000. There's too much money in it and that's just the reality.

Have you ever hunted aoudads? Killing 5 out of a herd of 100 plus isn’t controlling population it’s still with in natural mortality %.

We have culled hundreds of ewes, and still can’t kill them out . No different then hogs, you have to do YEARLY air and trapping. it’s the only way todo successfully effective mass reduction

Both these scenarios are sad, but what else can you do?

Worked with a WWII vet that was in the Pacific. Just about as calm and nice a person as you could ever hope to meet.
Bernie would look you square in the eye and calmly state, "If you find a nest of snakes, you don't just kill the big ones. You kill them all."

Pythons, nilgai, horses, pigs, fire ants, nutria, aoudad and heaven only knows what all else?
Kill 'em all!

 

[cuerro viejo]

Both these scenarios are sad, but what else can you do?

Worked with a WWII vet that was in the Pacific. Just about as calm and nice a person as you could ever hope to meet.
Bernie would look you square in the eye and calmly state, "If you find a nest of snakes, you don't just kill the big ones. You kill them all."

Pythons, nilgai, horses, pigs, fire ants, nutria, aoudad and heaven only knows what all else?
Kill 'em all!

Not to be the Devils advocate but have you ever eaten Axis , it’s goodddddd, but their fawn recruitment typical out produces Whitetails

You have to convince landowners the juice isn’t worth squeeze and needs to show them the true negative costs of aoudad

 

[Amos Keeto]

Not to be the Devils advocate but have you ever eaten Axis , it’s goodddddd, but their fawn recruitment typical out produces Whitetails

You have to convince landowners the juice isn’t worth squeeze and needs to show them the true negative costs of aoudad

No, nor nilgai, aoudad or blackbuck.
Went to a "Wild game dinner" at the "Original Noack Bar & Grill" back in the early 70's. They had just about anything "wild"! A couple of "brewskis" and I'm not quite sure WHAT I consumed, but I do recall eating rattlesnake, bison, elk, salmon and some other stuff I can't even guess!

At one time, the "Noack Bar & Grill" was a steak house and had a hand carved oak bar up front.
It was long ago enough that you could get an 18 ounce Porterhouse steak, an order of onion rings and a schooner of beer and leave the waitress a nice tip with a $5 bill!
Noack, TX was, at one time, the smallest incorporated town in the state of Texas!
Population: 3
The bar burned, the steakhouse closed and the family died off. It's just a wide spot in the road now....and not very wide!