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I'm also in the no chest pocket group.

A built in belt is a feature I have come to appreciate. I always thought it was hokey until I got pair. It's nice having a super low profile buckle that does not conflict with a pack belt.

I'm personally most interested in the late season pants. That to me seems like the area with the most room for market share.
The Torex pants are really great.
 
Can’t wait for this line. I really hope the fit on the pants are good, love to see the smaller, similar hobby dudes doing great in the industry we all love!


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The new OV lineup's been popular on this forum, and not to ruffle any feathers but hard not to compare... I'm sure you've been paying attention to those, how would you compare these Argali pieces, similar goals? Similar approaches? Or different goals & approaches?
 
I haven’t read all the comments but I would like a pair of mid weight pants with super big vents that go all the way down the leg like stone glacier has in their pants but with netting like Kuiu uses so when the vents are wide open the legs don’t get filled with crap.

This! I love the SG vents but do wish they had netting.

Also I’d rather have an arm pocket than a chest pocket on a mid layer. The chest pocket just gets obstructed as others have said.


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If you look at the photos I shared on the initial post There is a photo of the side vents. Is that what you mean?

I think going past the knee really opens up the stove pipe. I’d have to pull out my SG but I think it goes way low.


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This! I love the SG vents but do wish they had netting.

Also I’d rather have an arm pocket than a chest pocket on a mid layer. The chest pocket just gets obstructed as others have said.


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I like the idea of a arm pocket that is low enough to be functional. But the problem woth that is IF you are wearing a jacket, that pocket becomes useless. With the chest pocket, its an easy zip down and access. Its a catch 22, dang if you do dang if you dont.

Leg leg vents are great. Small vents are not useful. Wouldnt he bad to have a crotch vent as well, but having the outside one is more effective in dumping heat. And too many zippers means more money and things to fail, so the outer vents are the better approach.
 
Hell ya. Looking forward to seeing the developments. If I was to design a early season pant it would have the following: athletic/tapered fit ( sounds like youve thought of that), thin style knee pad compatible (for antelope or plains game), generous hip zips, no zippers on seat, front thigh pockets (not on the side) and slightly deeper hand pockets ( so trinkets don’t get lost seated). Good luck and looking forward to seeing progress!
 
If you look at the photos I shared on the initial post There is a photo of the side vents. Is that what you mean?
The stone glacier pants have a side vent that goes down past the knee to about half way between the knee and the ankle, and like that other guys said, going past the articulation of the knee really helps open them up and create airflow for those of us that tend to run on the warmer side.
 
For a heavy base layer or mid layer fleece, I hate that zippered chest pocket. I’d rather save the $5 on the cost of the piece by eliminating that step in production.

I’d actually trade that pocket for a kangaroo pocket. I feel like I’m the minority with this, but i absolutely love kangaroo pockets and wish more grid fleece had that option. Not a lot of companies adding them to a grid fleece these days.
I agree. With everyone wearing bino harnesses nowadays how the heck can you access it. Give me a kangaroo pocket all day!
 
Do your thigh pockets have any sort of an internal sleeve or divider to keep a cell phone in place?
Alternatively have you considered a drop-in pocket like in some carpenter's pants these days?
That's about my favorite place to keep a phone for navigation and photos.
I do like the thigh pockets as you have shown on at least one side: I often put gloves in them while I do fine motor tasks.

My ideal mid season pant would have a doubled knee and seat

I don't have much of a use for hip vents myself, pants I've had with them didn't seem like much of a benefit and I find myself not touching them. That said I don't think I've had any as big as you have shown. I like the look of them and glad they don't go past the knee like stone glacier. I'd be real worried the zipper would bunch up and rub.

I'm with lots of other folks: I have no use for chest pockets on baselayers or midlayers. It's covered up by the bino pouch and even if not if every layer has a chest pocket in it I start to not remember which layer has the doodad in it as I add and subtract.

Fingers crossed for a 36" inseam!

The fleece is the least inspiring to me: that feels like a pretty crowded market that'd be hard to stand out in.

Also would you please consider making a sun hoodie that includes tall sizes!? for the life of me REI seems to be the only reputable brand that has something in that option. Eddie bauer, columbia, and L.L. bean sort of do but they're either out of stock, don't have a decent anti-stink, atrocious noisy branding, and/or boxy terrible fit.
 
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