The 6UM

[WRO]

Yeah that’s a good point. Lethal for sure, eventually. Do you see that impact velocity directly correlates to how quickly a bullet will tumble upon impact if it doesn’t completely fragment? I’m not a fan of tumbling bullets in case you can’t tell haha. It doesn’t seem consistent enough to me.

I took this picture of how wide a bull really is, after I quartered it up. Doesn’t look like a lot room there for delayed terminal performance IMO. My hand is behind the removed shoulders. 225 ELDM ate him up

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I have shot one elk twice in out of 15 with the 225 eldms.. typically they fall DRT, but I typically shoot front shoulder third of the way down trauma is top of the lungs and spine.


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[sportsmans challenge]

Peterson said they would consider a run of 6UM when they run 6.5 and 7 SAUM.

Sounds like we would need to order 50k pieces or more.

When is their next run supposed to be

 

[Clarktar]

So, now I need to order dies.... Anyone already order dies?

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[Brontosaurus]

When is their next run supposed to be

Also curious. Will it come as fully formed brass? Removing the ff step is gonna remove the barrier for alot of people

 

[Formidilosus]

Substituted the Barnes 112gr MatchBurner for the DTAC. 66gr N570, Fed 210 primer, 2.915” coal.




Trued out at 3,250fps MV. 20” barrel.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Substituted the Barnes 112gr MatchBurner for the DTAC. 66gr N570, Fed 210 primer, 2.915” coal.

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Trued out at 3,250fps MV. 20” barrel.

Are you going to try the MB on elk again?

 

[Formidilosus]

Are you going to try the MB on elk again?

Yes sir.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Yes sir.

Very cool. Talked my dad into a 6UM and it's a bit of a toss up between a deep cut DTAC or the MB

 

[IrkedCitizen]

I have 1500 deep cut DTACs that I could be talked out of.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Also thinking of the 108 eld obvi

 

[Balderdash]

Don’t read into the amount of shots. My average is 4 shots in elk. This is regardless of caliber or cartridge. The last one with a 338 mag was 6 chest shots IIRC.
I do not shoot and then watch and see what happens waiting for them to fall over. I watch the impact, run the bolt immediately, and if the animal is still standing or in any way still moving, they keep getting shot. I keep shooting until they stop moving. I’ve spent too much time chasing wounded animals because people thought their first shot was “perfect” and wanted to play the “one shot kill” BS game.

Shoot them to the ground as quickly as possible.

Formidilosus:

This is just solid advice for all big game hunting, regardless of caliber, bullet, range, etc. Keep shooting until the game is down. You dont get points for least number of shots. Like you, I'm quick with the follow ups, and I've also had a couple of elk absorb 4-5 338 WM and 7mm RM shots to the chest before finally gowing down.

Through the years I've hunted with guys who don't want to ruin more meat, so they play the give them time to expire after 1 hit game. I recall a very large bull elk that dropped at the shot but staggered over a ridge. There would've been ample time for more shots, but the hunter didn't think them necessary. By the time we made it over the ridge the bull was already cresting the next one with no signs of slowing down. Hardly any blood. Never did catch up with it. Figuring cns shock but not a lot of vital area damage. Likewise with a large whitetail buck I shot. Bedded down right after the shot, so I didn't shoot again. By the time I made it over to him he had slid into a large reservoir, and I never did find any further evidence of him.

 

[Formidilosus]

Formidilosus:

This is just solid advice for all big game hunting, regardless of caliber, bullet, range, etc. Keep shooting until the game is down. You dont get points for least number of shots. Like you, I'm quick with the follow ups, and I've also had a couple of elk absorb 4-5 338 WM and 7mm RM shots to the chest before finally gowing down.

Through the years I've hunted with guys who don't want to ruin more meat, so they play the give them time to expire after 1 hit game. I recall a very large bull elk that dropped at the shot but staggered over a ridge. There would've been ample time for more shots, but the hunter didn't think them necessary. By the time we made it over the ridge the bull was already cresting the next one with no signs of slowing down. Hardly any blood. Never did catch up with it. Figuring cns shock but not a lot of vital area damage. Likewise with a large whitetail buck I shot. Bedded down right after the shot, so I didn't shoot again. By the time I made it over to him he had slid into a large reservoir, and I never did find any further evidence of him.

Yes sir. In both hunting and culling I have spent a lot of time in rodeos caused by not shooting follow up shots at all, or not shooting follow up shots fast enough.

Animals have enough oxygenated blood to continue moving and remain conscious for 20-40 seconds at a minimum even if it is cut off completely (aka a devastating heart shot). They can cover a lot of ground in that time. Additionally, with chest shots that are relying on loss of oxygen to cause unconsciousness- that can take minutes to hours at times. Yes, usually it’s relatively quick, but not always.
My practice is that if I can’t see exactly where the first round impacted, I shoot two to the chest then go to the neck to stop them. If I see the first impact go center to low in the chest, the follow up is immediately to the neck.

So in general- a couple shots to the chest, then immediately transition to immediate incapacitation shots. Even if the neck shot misses the spine, almost always with the type of bullets I shoot, the neck shot stuns the CNS and they drop. By the time the shock has worn off from the neck shot, they have succumbed to the chest wound.

 

[Ryan Avery]

710 yard shot. Hit the bull about as perfect as you possibly can in the pocket. He took one step backwards then one step forward, then he was down and dead. I watched the whole process in the scope. I tried to shoot the hell out of him like Form but he didnt give me the chance

I still suck at taking after action pics especially when you have a nine mile pack out. It pinholes in and the exit pic doesn’t do it justice but it had massive damage on exit.

The bull was long in the tooth!

Thank goodness for Justin Stark and his packgoats!

My shooting position

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[cmahoney]

710 yard shot. Hit the bull as out as perfect as you possibly could in the pocket. He took one step backwards then one step forward, then he was down and dead. I watched the whole process in the scope. I tried to shoot the hell out of him like Form but he didnt give me the chance

I still suck at taking after action pics especially when you have a nine mile pack out. It pinholes in and the exit pic doesn’t do it justice but it had massive damage on exit.

The bull was long in the tooth!

Thank goodness for Justin Stark and his packgoats!

My shooting position

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Sorry man, I haven’t read the whole thread, what bullet did you use?


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[Ryan Avery]

Sorry man, I haven’t read the whole thread, what bullet did you use?


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115 NR Dtac at 3330


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[Formidilosus]

I tried to shoot the hell out of him like Form but he didnt give me the chance

I remember when I didn’t want to shoot animals.



Pacifist.

 

[mtnwrunner]

Damn nice bull Fuzzy.

Randy

 

[Ryan Avery]

I remember when I didn’t want to shoot animals.



Pacifist.

I tried but my first shot was to good.

 

[bmart2622]

710 yard shot. Hit the bull about as perfect as you possibly can in the pocket. He took one step backwards then one step forward, then he was down and dead. I watched the whole process in the scope. I tried to shoot the hell out of him like Form but he didnt give me the chance

I still suck at taking after action pics especially when you have a nine mile pack out. It pinholes in and the exit pic doesn’t do it justice but it had massive damage on exit.

The bull was long in the tooth!

Thank goodness for Justin Stark and his packgoats!

My shooting position

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Off topic but what shelter is that?

 

[Ryan Avery]

Off topic but what shelter is that?

Justin made it. It’s what a Court house should be.