The 22 creedmoor thread

[huntnful]

Missed the wind call. At my position it was at like 4:30-5 o clock. When I went to look for blood it was more like 7-8 o clock most of the way to where they were. Elk was looking right and I held edge of chest or slightly off for the 10-12 mph wind.

Dang, so you were holding right for the wind at your location, but the majority of the wind was actually blowing right once you left your location. That's a bummer. I hate head-winds and tail-winds. They are always varying, and if you hold wrong, you're WAY wrong lol. Much rather have a perpendicular wind for sure! What was the distance?

I had a buck at 460 yards this year with a varying 15MPH head wind. I couldn't pick which side to hold on because it kept switching. Instead of chancing it and favoring one side or the other and being double wrong if the wind switched, I just held center in the vitals and sent it. Hit him about 4" forward and killed him pretty quick. Felt like I made the right call in that circumstance.

 

[Fire_9]

Dang, so you were holding right for the wind at your location, but the majority of the wind was actually blowing right once you left your location. That's a bummer. I hate head-winds and tail-winds. They are always varying, and if you hold wrong, you're WAY wrong lol. Much rather have a perpendicular wind for sure! What was the distance?

I had a buck at 460 yards this year with a varying 15MPH head wind. I couldn't pick which side to hold on because it kept switching. Instead of chancing it and favoring one side or the other and being double wrong if the wind switched, I just held center in the vitals and sent it. Hit him about 4" forward and killed him pretty quick. Felt like I made the right call in that circumstance.

Yep you’re on the right track. My hold was definitely heavy to start with as it was at 420 yards. Wind reading is definitely not something I’m great at.

Also found this as I was unloading one of my mags. The tip was actually still connected but just barely. I had bought 500 seconds from midway and was all I had loaded so far as I didn’t think I was going to do any more hunting this year. I’ll definitely not be carrying any of the seconds to hunt with

 

[huntnful]

Yep you’re on the right track. My hold was definitely heavy to start with as it was at 420 yards. Wind reading is definitely not something I’m great at.

Also found this as I was unloading one of my mags. The tip was actually still connected but just barely. I had bought 500 seconds from midway and was all I had loaded so far as I didn’t think I was going to do any more hunting this year. I’ll definitely not be carrying any of the seconds to hunt with
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Dang!! My buddy had a box of 100 of the 88’s and I think 12 of them had busted tips. And they weren’t the seconds. They were the legit 88’s.

I’ve shot well over 1000 ELDM’s of all calibers and sizes now and have not had a single busted tip on any of them out of the box

 

[SouthPaw]

This look about right for 4831SC and an 80 ELDM?

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Yes, 42.5 is the load I use for the 80eldm and 79g DRTs. Shoots great with both.

 

[HandgunHTR]

Anyone tried a McGowen barrel yet?

I’ve got a brand new Tikka stainless action on the way for this new stainless 20” 8 twist McGowen 22 Creedmoor Tikka barrel.

Plan is to see how 80 ELDX hand loads do with @huntnful this winter.


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I have 2 McGowans.

One is a 260 REM Remage barrel. Shoots great with 139 Scenars.

The other is a 6.5-06AI Tikka prefit I bought used off of the classifieds. Have only shot fire forming loads in it so far, but went 30 for 30 on a 4” gong at 300 after using the first 20 to zero the scope.

 

[Juan_ID]

Is this price disparity normal?

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I’ve not paid anywhere near $50 a box for the 80eldx. A little looking around on the web they can be had for well under $40 a box.

 

[huntnful]

Yes, 42.5 is the load I use for the 80eldm and 79g DRTs. Shoots great with both.

Thanks! I actually went out and shot it yesterday already lol. Shot great. A little slower than 4350.

 

[Nine Banger]

I made 22 creedmoor brass out of 6.5 creedmoor brass by going directly into a 22 creed sizing die.

I used One Shot on the case and graphite on the necks.

I checked stretch at 1 pass and then turned these 90 degrees and hit them again for old time sake.

I went ADG for my 6.5 PRC but kept looking at my giant stack of 6.5 creed once fired brass and had to satisfy my curiosity before purchasing any 22 creed headstamped brass.

My hypothesis was that the first case would get stuck but I’m happy and satisfied that it worked.

 

[st1650]

Had some ignition issues today. Wasn’t even that cold. Snowing a bit. Was using brand new Alpha SRP brass, CCI 450, N555, 77 TMK & 88 ELD-M and about 10% of the time there was a 0.1-0.2sec ignition delay. Very odd but I’ll definitely be switching over to LRP for this hunting build.

 

[Jake Leibke]

Had some ignition issues today. Wasn’t even that cold. Snowing a bit. Was using brand new Alpha SRP brass, CCI 450, N555, 77 TMK & 88 ELD-M and about 10% of the time there was a 0.1-0.2sec ignition delay. Very odd but I’ll definitely be switching over to LRP for this hunting build.

I had the same thing with cci450’s and H4350. Know some other guys had issues with the cci 450 primers not only in the 22 cm.


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[st1650]

I had the same thing with cci450’s and H4350. Know some other guys had issues with the cci 450 primers not only in the 22 cm.


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I have some CCI BR2s and I’ll order some Alpha LRP for my next outing. Hopefully that’ll resolve the issue. I doubt that magnum primers are required …

I think have some Fed 210m which would probably be even better but I’m running quite low.

 

[Juan_ID]

Has anyone narrowed down what’s causing the delayed ignition? I have shot several thousand rounds now with cci450’s in 6.5creed, 6arc, 22GT and 223 with various powders from xbr varget and h4350 and a fair bit of those have been in cold(er) weather and never had a delay or one not go bang when expected. Also @Jake Leibke i see you’re going away from the 22creed, what are you going to?

 

[SouthPaw]

I only use cci450s in all my guns. 223, 6.5cm, 22cm, and soon to be 6cm. Not a single hang fire ever even in cold. However, I also haven't used low case fill powders like h4350/varget in 22cm which seems to be a common theme for the issues. I stuff it with H1000 or H4831sc for a full case.

 

[waspocrew]

Only hangfire (more like incredibly slightly delayed fire) was this summer with Varget and CCI 450s in alpha SRP brass. This happened at lower charges (37 gr). No issues at 39 gr and above with the 62 Gr ELDVT.

 

[Jake Leibke]

[mention]Juan_ID [/mention] I put together a 22 arc. 18” gas gun shooting 75 eldm at 2950. Where I’m at that puts me to 700 give or take. 22 cm got me to a little better then 800 shooting the 75’s at 3200. 22 cm was burning about 13 more grains of powder and I was getting about 900-1000 rounds out of a barrel before I was getting a drop in accuracy. That was average for 3 barrels I went through. Decided the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze.


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[mxgsfmdpx]

[mention]Juan_ID [/mention] I put together a 22 arc. 18” gas gun shooting 75 eldm at 2950. Where I’m at that puts me to 700 give or take. 22 cm got me to a little better then 800 shooting the 75’s at 3200. 22 cm was burning about 13 more grains of powder and I was getting about 900-1000 rounds out of a barrel before I was getting a drop in accuracy. That was average for 3 barrels I went through. Decided the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze.


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Which barrel makes if you don’t mind?

 

[Jake Leibke]

Which barrel makes if you don’t mind?

The 22 cm barrels were factory tikka 223 I had rechambered.

The 22 arc barrel is a ballistic advantage.


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[ACHILLES]

Was out coyote hunting this evening and ended up shooting a sal at 280yards.

18”bbl 90gr SMK with the hollow point opened to .025” at 3100fps
Impact velocity 2608fps

Broad side shot with a full pass through. Found her exit side up, ran about 50yards in the brush with a heavy blood trail and a chunk of organ tissue with a good amount of blood blew out on the ground as the bullet exited. Exit hole was about 3/8”.
Next time I’m going to open the hollow point up to .030” and see how that does.


Exit up close

 

[waspocrew]

Was out coyote hunting this evening and ended up shooting a sal at 280yards.

18”bbl 90gr SMK with the hollow point opened to .025” at 3100fps
Impact velocity 2608fps

Broad side shot with a full pass through. Found her exit side up, ran about 50yards in the brush with a heavy blood trail and a chunk of organ tissue with a good amount of blood blew out on the ground as the bullet exited. Exit hole was about 3/8”.
Next time I’m going to open the hollow point up to .030” and see how that does.
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Exit up close
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Looks like it did a great job. Curious to see the difference opening the tips slightly more.

 

[ACHILLES]

I was happy with the results. I did the same thing with the pointed 131s in my 25sst and it worked well on quite a few animals with a .019” hollow point. I tried larger but it was the same result so I just use the .019” bit as it’s easier to get in there in one pass anyway. My exit holes went from 1/2” to 1-1.25” and of course more destruction and tissue damage to the vitals.

Wanted to try the SMK’s in the 22creed because I figured I could get them to pass through all the way. All though I’ve been happy with the 80eldm at 2950mv also since they expand immediately and there is quite a bit of blood loss from the entrance which I’m not used to with bergers and SMK’s. The 80 eldms do not exit most of the time depending on distance.

I’m running the 80s at 3200fps now so Il be looking forward to seeing how that does also.