The 22 creedmoor thread

[ChrisAU]

Got home from lunch today and started reading thread from the beginning. Didn’t learn that much lol.

I am in possession of 200 pcs of Peterson SRP brass, 500 77gr TMKs, 4,000 CCI 450s, and lots of powders but notably, a lot of Varget. Going to try it in my 16.5” first. Temp stability will be more important to me than top speed, tho I do kinda wish I had went with LRP brass after reading the thread.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Got home from lunch today and started reading thread from the beginning. Didn’t learn that much lol.

I am in possession of 200 pcs of Peterson SRP brass, 500 77gr TMKs, 4,000 CCI 450s, and lots of powders but notably, a lot of Varget. Going to try it in my 16.5” first. Temp stability will be more important to me than top speed, tho I do kinda wish I had went with LRP brass after reading the thread.

You should be good to go. Let us know.

 

[mtnbound]

Got home from lunch today and started reading thread from the beginning. Didn’t learn that much lol.

I am in possession of 200 pcs of Peterson SRP brass, 500 77gr TMKs, 4,000 CCI 450s, and lots of powders but notably, a lot of Varget. Going to try it in my 16.5” first. Temp stability will be more important to me than top speed, tho I do kinda wish I had went with LRP brass after reading the thread.

I won't say that I have never had an issue with SRP, but I also can't say the same about LRPs. For me, the SRP is a great option, and I love that they are often more readily available in my area than LRPs.

 

[Castle Rock]

Weird. Showing in stock for me. Added 4 boxes to my cart and went to check out without any issue or error message.

22 Creedmoor MEAD 85gr BTHP (20 Rounds) | Mead Industries, Inc

22 Creedmoor 85gr Match BTHP Ammunition These are MADE in the USA! Not imported!

meadammo.com

That ammo must be hot
Read the temperature disclaimer

 

[waspocrew]

That ammo must be hot
Read the temperature disclaimer

I hadn’t noticed that disclaimer (i.e. probably overlooked). Looking at several of their other ammo offerings, they have that same disclaimer (even on subsonic 300 BLK). Probably more of a “cover your ass” thing.

The 85s clock ~ 2911 out of my 20” Proof.

 

[BLJ]

Ruger American G2 22 Creedmoor 22" Centerfire Rifle

Ruger American G2 22 Creedmoor 22" Centerfire Rifle

www.dunhamssports.com

 

[Rugger7622]

Anyone run QL on their loads? I'm trialing Gordon's Reloading Tool and my pressures seem way off for the velocity I'm getting with a Garmin chrono. I'm sure I have something an input not right, but with an 85.5 Berger and staball 6.5 GRT is saying I have over 77K pressure at 3,036fps, which doesn't feel right. Gun shoots great, no heavy lift, no primer pressure indication. GRT is off on my 4350 loads as well, not just a little, but like 500 fps. I do have a 16.5" barrel, that would cause the program to go wonky, would it?

Was just curious what QL would say.

 

[rifletuner]

I dont know if this has been asked before and I missed it, but I searched and couldnt find it.

I just received a 22 Creedmoor Barrel and plan to run 85.5 Bergers because I have a good supply. I have not even started load development yet, but confident the Bergers will shoot well. For those shooting the Berger 85.5 out of the Creed, what velocity have people found for good terminal performance?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I dont know if this has been asked before and I missed it, but I searched and couldnt find it.

I just received a 22 Creedmoor Barrel and plan to run 85.5 Bergers because I have a good supply. I have not even started load development yet, but confident the Bergers will shoot well. For those shooting the Berger 85.5 out of the Creed, what velocity have people found for good terminal performance?

From what I’ve seen, which is minimal, significant yawing and fragmentation in gel. This is a recipe for dead animals but can be unpredictable at low impact velocities.

I can’t make a fully educated guess, as nothing replaces shooting animals for me, but, if I was to hunt with them I’d keep them closer to 2,200-2,500 FPS impact velocity on deer and elk and then further analyze from there.

I’m guessing dead animals is what you will see, would be curious to see detailed photos if you end up killing and don’t mind sharing.

 

[rifletuner]

From what I’ve seen, which is minimal, significant yawing and fragmentation in gel. This is a recipe for dead animals but can be unpredictable at low impact velocities.

I can’t make a fully educated guess, as nothing replaces shooting animals for me, but, if I was to hunt with them I’d keep them closer to 2,200-2,500 FPS impact velocity on deer and elk and then further analyze from there.

I’m guessing dead animals is what you will see, would be curious to see detailed photos if you end up killing and don’t mind sharing.

Yeah, will definitely share results, but probably wont be using them on game until the end of the year. I dont have actual velocities from my rifle yet, but if 2500fps is the bottom end for good terminal performance, that would put me at around a 500 meter range. Maybe out to 600. I will start out pretty conservatively. I am just trying to work out an envelope to operate in before I have any actual experience to go off.

 

[HuntHarder]

I've used and seen Bergers used on quite a bit of kills. Vast majority were very destructive internally, with few exits or small exits. I have seen a few "failures" which did not expand for some reason. All of my experience is with bigger cartridges 300win, 300 rum, 7 mag, 7 prc. A few of those would be in the 1800-2000 fps impacts and overall great results. I'm not sure I would say 2500 fps, personally, I set my minimum at 2000ish fps. YMMV. I'll be using 130 VLD-h this year out of a 6.5. I'll try and pay attention to the details of the shot.

 

[ID_Matt]

I think we are generalizing all bergers together though. I think the LRHT that is being mentioned is likely to behave differently than the others due to the more pointed and less open tip.

 

[rifletuner]

I think we are generalizing all bergers together though. I think the LRHT that is being mentioned is likely to behave differently than the others due to the more pointed and less open tip.

Yes, I am looking for feedback on the 85.5 bullet specifically. We have seen enough variation from bullet to bullet that I dont want to assume about performance.

For example, the 7mm 180gn Berger seems to pretty reliably perform well on game, whereas the 195gn would be great in theory, but gets some pretty negative reviews from people who have used them for hunting.

 

[satchamo]

Does anyone have load data published for 22 creed/h4350 and 88 eldm? I have Hornady and it doesn’t have any h4350 data past 80 grainers. I thought about grabbing a hodgdon manual but didn’t want to waste the money if they are missing it too.

Or if someone just wants to tell me a general idea of where they hit pressure that would suffice too

For reference- Peterson LRP, cci200, h4350, 88 eldm is what I’m looking to play with. I also have some 80s and h1000 but I see data on those.

 

[mtnbound]

Does anyone have load data published for 22 creed/h4350 and 88 eldm? I have Hornady and it doesn’t have any h4350 data past 80 grainers. I thought about grabbing a hodgdon manual but didn’t want to waste the money if they are missing it too.

Or if someone just wants to tell me a general idea of where they hit pressure that would suffice too

For reference- Peterson LRP, cci200, h4350, 88 eldm is what I’m looking to play with. I also have some 80s and h1000 but I see data on those.

No 88 load in Hodgdon either they have the 90 A Tip but not with H4350.

 

[david2duck]

@satchamo I’m running Peterson LRP, Fed 210m, H4350, and 88’s in two diff 22cm. I started at 37 and ran up to 40 in one and 41 for the other. One is new but looks like I’ll be running 38 and the other has 200+ rounds now at 39. Hope that helps.

 

[satchamo]

@satchamo I’m running Peterson LRP, Fed 210m, H4350, and 88’s in two diff 22cm. I started at 37 and ran up to 40 in one and 41 for the other. One is new but looks like I’ll be running 38 and the other has 200+ rounds now at 39. Hope that helps.

That’s helpful - I’ll plan to try 38/39/40. It’s hot here right now so I gotta be careful

 

[Mountain_Life]

Does anyone have load data published for 22 creed/h4350 and 88 eldm? I have Hornady and it doesn’t have any h4350 data past 80 grainers. I thought about grabbing a hodgdon manual but didn’t want to waste the money if they are missing it too.

Or if someone just wants to tell me a general idea of where they hit pressure that would suffice too

For reference- Peterson LRP, cci200, h4350, 88 eldm is what I’m looking to play with. I also have some 80s and h1000 but I see data on those.

I have a 16" 22 cm. Tikka action, PBB barrel. Alpha LRP, CCI 200 primer, 88 eldm. I worked up to 40g of h4350 without hard bolt lift, but started to see pressure on primer at 39. I initially loaded at 39.5 but have since dropped to 39g after some wet casing tests. I know of others who are seeing pressure signs lower than that, so work up.

 

[Mountain_Life]

That’s helpful - I’ll plan to try 38/39/40. It’s hot here right now so I gotta be careful

IMO, testing in hot or wet conditions is actually a better way to do it. You'll encounter those conditions eventually when shooting so it's better to find pressure now then in the field.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Does anyone have load data published for 22 creed/h4350 and 88 eldm? I have Hornady and it doesn’t have any h4350 data past 80 grainers. I thought about grabbing a hodgdon manual but didn’t want to waste the money if they are missing it too.

Or if someone just wants to tell me a general idea of where they hit pressure that would suffice too

For reference- Peterson LRP, cci200, h4350, 88 eldm is what I’m looking to play with. I also have some 80s and h1000 but I see data on those.

Start around 36 and work up. You'll likely be fine up past 40, but better to be safe.