SWFA business model?

[fngTony]

Remember, shoot I still got a fax machine.

Right next to the 8track player?

 

[Billy Goat]

Right next to the 8track player?

No, not that old.

 

[Billy Goat]

Just found SWFA's fax number, might just fax my order in.





Thought that might make a few heads explode.

 

[Marbles]

I didn't know there's now an OMM, a WKD, an EMM, a WKM!

Who do I need to fax to get changed to LKI? (lesser known instigator)

I'm pretty sure I don't get a label because it violated form rules, something along the lines of "**** ****" was in order for me.

 

[CorbLand]

We still fax stuff at work. It’s very little but we do it.

 

[Drenalin]

I occasionally receive an email, asking if that person’s fax was received. But we’re simple people.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Nah man he just keeps arguing and throwing a big tissy, nothing will quel his anguish.
No matter how many well worded points you put in his face. He won't be happy until swfa runs there business how he wants.

Even tho he obviously has no idea how over seas procurement is done.

He probably doesn't even have an swfa. And never will.
He just had a wet dream about one once.

I’d say he’s a few fries short of the full happy meal.

 

[ETtikka]

Somehow, Trijicon hasn't suffered the same supply chain issues with their Japanese lines. Must be their bad business model.

Big price difference

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Do you care to answer my question on what qualifies you as an expert on retail?

I am not an expert on retail. I do have retail management experience, but it isn't relevant to this discussion.

SWFA is contracting their retail footprint. I have given plenty of examples. I'll offer yet another, then expand on something that has previously been conveniently ignored by those who believe SWFA has a great business model.

They used to have quite a bit of reloading stuff. They have almost none now. 3 boxes of widely available Hornady bullets. The run on reloading supplies has cooled, but demand remains high and profit margins are good. Why would a healthy business do that? As I have stated before, that is NOT a supply chain issue.

Let's revisit their optics footprint. They used to be a full line optics dealer with a massive line up. Right now they are showing 72 different scopes and red dots, 1/3 of which are Barska. They are showing 2 Burris, 2 Bushnell, 1 Trijicon, and 2 Vortex models in stock. That is a substantial contraction, and it is NOT supply chain induced.

It is obvious that they are contracting. They are contracting in a hot industry. Their contraction is quite obviously not supply chain related, as evidenced by the fact that other business have plenty of the product that they have little of. Can we agree on that? If not, may I ask you to reply on substance and perhaps quantify your response?

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Big price difference

How does that price difference affect supply chain?

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Nah man he just keeps arguing and throwing a big tissy, nothing will quel his anguish.
No matter how many well worded points you put in his face. He won't be happy until swfa runs there business how he wants.

Even tho he obviously has no idea how over seas procurement is done.

He probably doesn't even have an swfa. And never will.
He just had a wet dream about one once.

There refers to a place a place.
Their is possessive and shows ownership.
You keep using there as a possessive.

Overseas is one word.

Providing facts, as I have, is what a discussion is all about. Interesting that you view that as a tissy.

I have an SWFA. Other than SWFA being dishonest about the weight and the eye relief, it's a good scope. Great glass, reticle and illumination control.

 

[Billy Goat]

I am not an expert on retail. I do have retail management experience, but it isn't relevant to this discussion.

SWFA is contracting their retail footprint. I have given plenty of examples. I'll offer yet another, then expand on something that has previously been conveniently ignored by those who believe SWFA has a great business model.

They used to have quite a bit of reloading stuff. They have almost none now. 3 boxes of widely available Hornady bullets. The run on reloading supplies has cooled, but demand remains high and profit margins are good. Why would a healthy business do that? As I have stated before, that is NOT a supply chain issue.

Let's revisit their optics footprint. They used to be a full line optics dealer with a massive line up. Right now they are showing 72 different scopes and red dots, 1/3 of which are Barska. They are showing 2 Burris, 2 Bushnell, 1 Trijicon, and 2 Vortex models in stock. That is a substantial contraction, and it is NOT supply chain induced.

It is obvious that they are contracting. They are contracting in a hot industry. Their contraction is quite obviously not supply chain related, as evidenced by the fact that other business have plenty of the product that they have little of. Can we agree on that? If not, may I ask you to reply on substance and perhaps quantify your response?

It's possible that they are just heavily investing in their scope line, and doing it without borrowing money. That's not a popular way to do business anymore, but some still do.


Already plenty of places to buy scopes, likely they are deciding to focus on one thing instead of trying to compete with however many other retailers on scope prices.


Not my business, don't really care too much. If they fold up, I guess I loose my warranty. Same thing with any other company. I think I'm less likely to need the warranty than with several other manufacturers.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

I am not an expert on retail. I do have retail management experience, but it isn't relevant to this discussion.

SWFA is contracting their retail footprint. I have given plenty of examples. I'll offer yet another, then expand on something that has previously been conveniently ignored by those who believe SWFA has a great business model.

They used to have quite a bit of reloading stuff. They have almost none now. 3 boxes of widely available Hornady bullets. The run on reloading supplies has cooled, but demand remains high and profit margins are good. Why would a healthy business do that? As I have stated before, that is NOT a supply chain issue.

Let's revisit their optics footprint. They used to be a full line optics dealer with a massive line up. Right now they are showing 72 different scopes and red dots, 1/3 of which are Barska. They are showing 2 Burris, 2 Bushnell, 1 Trijicon, and 2 Vortex models in stock. That is a substantial contraction, and it is NOT supply chain induced.

It is obvious that they are contracting. They are contracting in a hot industry. Their contraction is quite obviously not supply chain related, as evidenced by the fact that other business have plenty of the product that they have little of. Can we agree on that? If not, may I ask you to reply on substance and perhaps quantify your response?

Every time you post you show you know less and less. Retail management? Of what? Unless you’re upper level management on a corporate level then you have zero clue how it all works. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are in here implying that a business that has been very successful doesn’t know how to run their business.

You know that the profit on ammo and components is so great, what’s the profit margin then? Nobody said that’s a supply chain issue, they probably just don’t want to sell the stuff when they can sell stuff that’s more profitable and easier to deal with. I’m sure you have no ******* idea how much more it costs to house hazmat stuff, the hoops you have to jump through and how much more expensive it is to ship it and ammo because of the weight.

WTF do you think they’re contracting? Their optics are OEM’d because that’s what almost everybody does. Again your just throwing around clueless thoughts.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

It's possible that they are just heavily investing in their scope line, and doing it without borrowing money. That's not a popular way to do business anymore, but some still do.


Already plenty of places to buy scopes, likely they are deciding to focus on one thing instead of trying to compete with however many other retailers on scope prices.


Not my business, don't really care too much. If they fold up, I guess I loose my warranty. Same thing with any other company. I think I'm less likely to need the warranty than with several other manufacturers.

That may well be what they are doing, and indeed it does appear that way. I'd like to think that waiting until supply chain issues involving their SWFA line are worked out, and manufacturing is in a position to keep up with demand, would be the smart business model though.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

That may well be what they are doing, and indeed it does appear that way. I'd like to think that waiting until supply chain issues involving their SWFA line are worked out, and manufacturing is in a position to keep up with demand, would be the smart business model though.

This is one of the dumbest things that I have ever read.

So you think instead of having product on order even though it’s taking longer they should just order nothing and sit on their asses until lead times return to what they were 3 years ago, if they ever do at all? That’s how you close your doors, you don’t have a ******* clue how to run a business.

 

[Billy Goat]

That may well be what they are doing, and indeed it does appear that way. I'd like to think that waiting until supply chain issues involving their SWFA line are worked out, and manufacturing is in a position to keep up with demand, would be the smart business model though.

Sitting around and waiting on invested capital is not good. You need to turn over.


Say you have 100k invested into a new order of however many scopes. You have been taking orders for how long now? 6-9 months? Keep in mind that's taking orders, not taking money.

Hell yes you start selling products as soon as they show up. You have floated everything that long, you need immediate sales.

I mean, I guess all these ammo retailers should just wait to sell anything until they have enough supply to meet demand so they won't be sold out?

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Every time you post you show you know less and less. Retail management? Of what? Unless you’re upper level management on a corporate level then you have zero clue how it all works. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are in here implying that a business that has been very successful doesn’t know how to run their business.

You know that the profit on ammo and components is so great, what’s the profit margin then? Nobody said that’s a supply chain issue, they probably just don’t want to sell the stuff when they can sell stuff that’s more profitable and easier to deal with. I’m sure you have no ******* idea how much more it costs to house hazmat stuff, the hoops you have to jump through and how much more expensive it is to ship it and ammo because of the weight.

WTF do you think they’re contracting? Their optics are OEM’d because that’s what almost everybody does. Again your just throwing around clueless thoughts.

You have made it very clear that you don't want to deal with the information we have at hand to discuss their business model.

WTF makes me think they are contracting? Evidence (what you consider clueless thoughts.) They used to have a lot of guns in stock. According to their website they have ONE in stock right now. They used to have hundreds of scopes in stock. Let's revisit their optics footprint. Right now they are showing 72 different scopes and red dots, 1/3 of which are Barska. They are showing 2 Burris, 2 Bushnell, 1 Trijicon, and 2 Vortex models in stock.

That IS a contraction, and nobody needs retail experience to come to that conclusion.

Plenty of people have blamed SWFAs dwindling stock on supply chain issues. You'd have to read the posts to know that though. I'd go back and snip quotes, but you'd ignore that too.

You're is a contraction of you are. Your is possessive.

By all means, keep telling me how little I know and ignoring the facts/evidence.

 

[Billy Goat]

I'm assuming a lot or all of what I'm saying has been said, I haven't read at least 16 of the pages.

I showed up for team Memehole, but my inspirational juices weren't flowing last night and I was just struggling, had to sit the bench. Hopefully I don't get cut from the team.


I know that on a lot of items, profits aren't anywhere near what people think. Firearms suck. The headache, overhead, red tape, heck no, I ain't dealing with that to try to make 10-15%.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

This is one of the dumbest things that I have ever read.

So you think instead of having product on order even though it’s taking longer they should just order nothing and sit on their asses until lead times return to what they were 3 years ago, if they ever do at all? That’s how you close your doors, you don’t have a ******* clue how to run a business.

You have an incredible gift of creative reading.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

You have made it very clear that you don't want to deal with the information we have at hand to discuss their business model.

WTF makes me think they are contracting? Evidence (what you consider clueless thoughts.) They used to have a lot of guns in stock. According to their website they have ONE in stock right now. They used to have hundreds of scopes in stock. Let's revisit their optics footprint. Right now they are showing 72 different scopes and red dots, 1/3 of which are Barska. They are showing 2 Burris, 2 Bushnell, 1 Trijicon, and 2 Vortex models in stock.

That IS a contraction, and nobody needs retail experience to come to that conclusion.

Plenty of people have blamed SWFAs dwindling stock on supply chain issues. You'd have to read the posts to know that though. I'd go back and snip quotes, but you'd ignore that too.

You're is a contraction of you are. Your is possessive.

By all means, keep telling me how little I know and ignoring the facts/evidence.

Next explain to the class how this contracting works and the definition to you. I can’t wait for this one.