SWFA Black Friday

[goalie]

Scope Bumper size is 49.5

Just ordered a set.

 

[kaikens]

Great! Butler Creek #30 is 1.960" or 49.80 mm, which is consistent with the 49.5 mm for the scope bumpers. Thanks guys! I appreciate it.

 

[BigMiss]

Idk how you guys do this. Every time I log into this site theres some new post about crap I shouldn't buy. At least this gets me into a Rokslide approved scope. Now I need a Rokstok lite, LRF binos, and a UM 666 suppressor. Not sure how I can hide all those purchases from my wife in one year.

 

[43.6N]

Idk how you guys do this. Every time I log into this site theres some new post about crap I shouldn't buy. At least this gets me into a Rokslide approved scope. Now I need a Rokstok lite, LRF binos, and a UM 666 suppressor. Not sure how I can hide all those purchases from my wife in one year.

Don’t worry buddy, rokslide has got you there too…
Thread 'Online Gambling'
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/online-gambling.429722/

 

[BigMiss]

Don’t worry buddy, rokslide has got you there too…
Thread 'Online Gambling'
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/online-gambling.429722/

Thankfully, gambling does nothing for me. I just really wish I'd read the hundreds of pages i've covered a couple months earlier than I did. I would have been able to apply all that cash to the items I listed above. At least when I bought a new rifle this fall I went with a 6.5 caliber lol. I got a firm "No" on the trainer .223. Some day...

 

[Marbles]

Guess I dont understand what is so hard about just grabbing the scope and turning the ring?

The real advantage is a very obvious visual and tactile reference for what magnification the scope is on, in my opinion.

 

[KenLee]

Does anyone regret losing an illuminated reticle for hunting?

Every time I hunt early or late with a non illuminated, especially one with thin and/or busy reticle

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Guess I dont understand what is so hard about just grabbing the scope and turning the ring?

The mag ring has the same profile as the rest of the eyepiece and is fairly slick. A band or such draws the hand there quicker.

 

[KenLee]

223's look the same as a 6.5 when thy are leaned in the corner....................

and divorce is expensive cause its worth it.

 

[KenLee]

The mag ring has the same profile as the rest of the eyepiece and is fairly slick. A band or such draws the hand there quicker.

What a pos scope
Y'all gotta do better.

 

[benconfused]

and divorce is expensive cause its worth it.

I typically sell something in exchange for a new build, but I haven't purchased a lot of net new rifles in recent years.

 

[Mike Islander]

Grabbed a Gen 2 Mil-quad 3-15x42. I have several 6X, a 10X, and a 3-9x42. Figured the only way I'd know if I liked the 15X is by trying it. Actually never have used a scope bigger than the fixed 10X. Fairly easy to sell for a small loss if I hate it. Guessing I will like it. Definitely miss adjustable parallax on the 3-9.

CUSTOMER SERVICE!
I actually pressed the buy button before the official sale started and blindly paid full price. Contacted them and they refunded $100. No drama. Just the usual fantastic customer service I always get from SWFA.

 

[benconfused]

Grabbed a Gen 2 Mil-quad 3-15x42. I have several 6X, a 10X, and a 3-9x42. Figured the only way I'd know if I liked the 15X is by trying it. Actually never have used a scope bigger than the fixed 10X. Fairly easy to sell for a small loss if I hate it. Guessing I will like it.

CUSTOMER SERVICE!
I actually pressed the buy button before the official sale started and blindly paid full price. Contacted them and they refunded $100. No drama. Just the usual fantastic customer service I always get from SWFA.

I may buy if for some reason you don't like it after a couple months.

 

[Mike Islander]

I may buy if for some reason you don't like it after a couple months.

Sounds good. I have no issues leaving the turrets uncovered, so the "giant turret hate" may not be an issue. If nothing else it should be fun dialing squirrels out to 100 yards or so. I've taken most of my deer with the 10X on a Fieldcraft from 120-250 yards.

 

[OP101]

I’m sitting pretty undecided between the 3-9 and 3-15. Is the general idea that if you have the 3-15 you’ll be more tempted to use the upper magnification range more often which can negatively limit your field of view?

I don’t get why it’s a negative to have the 15x for times at the range, but only use the 3-9x range while you’re hunting. Or is everyone just repeating that the 3-9 is the best because that’s what they’ve read other people say?

I’ve read the thread multiple times and understand the diamonds are not filled in on the 3-15, questionable image quality from 12-15 (often refuted), a few more ounces, reticle is slightly thicker on the 3-9, and a higher price tag on the 3-15.

Just wondering what I’m missing if one were to get the 3-15 just for the sake of having more magnification while at the range.

 

[Marbles]

I’m sitting pretty undecided between the 3-9 and 3-15. Is the general idea that if you have the 3-15 you’ll be more tempted to use the upper magnification range more often which can negatively limit your field of view?

I don’t get why it’s a negative to have the 15x for times at the range, but only use the 3-9x range while you’re hunting. Or is everyone just repeating that the 3-9 is the best because that’s what they’ve read other people say?

I’ve read the thread multiple times and understand the diamonds are not filled in on the 3-15, questionable image quality from 12-15 (often refuted), a few more ounces, reticle is slightly thicker on the 3-9, and a higher price tag on the 3-15.

Just wondering what I’m missing if one were to get the 3-15 just for the sake of having more magnification while at the range.

If you prefer the 3-15, get that. They both work, the 3-9 fits my preferences before because it is simpler, which is better for my simple mind.

 

[goalie]

I’m sitting pretty undecided between the 3-9 and 3-15. Is the general idea that if you have the 3-15 you’ll be more tempted to use the upper magnification range more often which can negatively limit your field of view?

I don’t get why it’s a negative to have the 15x for times at the range, but only use the 3-9x range while you’re hunting. Or is everyone just repeating that the 3-9 is the best because that’s what they’ve read other people say?

I’ve read the thread multiple times and understand the diamonds are not filled in on the 3-15, questionable image quality from 12-15 (often refuted), a few more ounces, reticle is slightly thicker on the 3-9, and a higher price tag on the 3-15.

Just wondering what I’m missing if one were to get the 3-15 just for the sake of having more magnification while at the range.

Just a few thoughts:

1. The 3-9 has a 3x zoom compared to a 5x on the 3-15
2. The parallax is fixed on the 3-9

Those two mean a scope with less parts. KISS is a thing.

Add in that most that prefer the 3-9 prefer it specifically as a hunting scope. Hunting. Not shooting off the bench.

The 3-9 is under 20oz, tough, reliable/accurate tracking and comes with good glass. It's an amazing hunting optic.

It's not an amazing benchrest optic or PRS optic.

Optics that are better at long range target shooting may not be as good on a mountain hunting rifle.

Match the tool to the job and, IMO, you often get better results than you will using a "jack of all trades, master of none" tool.

 

[OP101]

If you prefer the 3-15, get that. They both work, the 3-9 fits my preferences before because it is simpler, which is better for my simple mind.

Appreciate it. Just preference, got it. I also don’t need the very best, just better than I have now.

Just a few thoughts:

1. The 3-9 has a 3x zoom compared to a 5x on the 3-15
2. The parallax is fixed on the 3-9

Those two mean a scope with less parts. KISS is a thing.

Add in that most that prefer the 3-9 prefer it specifically as a hunting scope. Hunting. Not shooting off the bench.

The 3-9 is under 20oz, tough, reliable/accurate tracking and comes with good glass. It's an amazing hunting optic.

It's not an amazing benchrest optic or PRS optic.

Optics that are better at long range target shooting may not be as good on a mountain hunting rifle.

Match the tool to the job and, IMO, you often get better results than you will using a "jack of all trades, master of none" tool.

Less moving parts is definitely simpler and typically better. However, neither models appear to have any issues with durability or reliability from what I’ve read so I have a difficult time considering the simplicity of the 3-9 a pro in this specific comparison scenario. Neither appear to have many issues.

The weight savings and specific use, as a hunting scope, like you are saying, are the two many drivers pushing me towards the 3-9. Just curious what reasons I might be overlooking that a 3-15 would be bad.

Only been hunting for ~7 years with an 4-16 SFP mil scope so my limited experience is one of my main issues. Plus all my experience has had 16x available to me, so I’m just hesitant to give that up and regret it. I appreciate the other points of view/input for sure.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I’m sitting pretty undecided between the 3-9 and 3-15. Is the general idea that if you have the 3-15 you’ll be more tempted to use the upper magnification range more often which can negatively limit your field of view?

I don’t get why it’s a negative to have the 15x for times at the range, but only use the 3-9x range while you’re hunting. Or is everyone just repeating that the 3-9 is the best because that’s what they’ve read other people say?

Its not a negative to have it, folks are just saying if hunting is the priority the 3-9 is enough. Additionally the 3-9 is more stream lined in terms of its turret protrusion/form factor, still a bit clunky but less so than the SS series. Also it costs less. Its "good enough" for hunting and generally affordable for a variable ffp hunting scope that can dial well. If you prefer the 3-15 get one.

 

[benconfused]

Appreciate it. Just preference, got it. I also don’t need the very best, just better than I have now.



Less moving parts is definitely simpler and typically better. However, neither models appear to have any issues with durability or reliability from what I’ve read so I have a difficult time considering the simplicity of the 3-9 a pro in this specific comparison scenario. Neither appear to have many issues.

The weight savings and specific use, as a hunting scope, like you are saying, are the two many drivers pushing me towards the 3-9. Just curious what reasons I might be overlooking that a 3-15 would be bad.

Only been hunting for ~7 years with an 4-16 SFP mil scope so my limited experience is one of my main issues. Plus all my experience has had 16x available to me, so I’m just hesitant to give that up and regret it. I appreciate the other points of view/input for sure.

Get the 3-15 and call it a day. Your still winning. Next year get a 3-9 if you want. Sell the other one anytime.