Swazi.......Yeah I'll Pass....

[Ratamahatta]

Was interested in two pieces from Swazi until I found this.

Swazi's Davey Hughes on guns ban

Swazi Man Davey Hughes says there is no place for semi-automatic weapons in New Zealand.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[BRTreedogs]

Yup I'm out.
He can shove it

 

[roadrunner]

Good for Swazi Man. When someone wants his opinion on the matter, they'll give it to him...

 

[FLATHEAD]

Never heard of the guy. Hope he stays in Swaziland.
And no, I wont be buying an Swazi gear.

 

[Balderdash]

Thanks for posting.

Everyone is entitled to form and share their opinions. But, we are also free to support sellers with common values.

Too bad. They had some great fleece garments.

 

[Ratamahatta]

I was looking at the hood and the nahanni. the hood was a no brainer.

 

[Mojave]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

 

[Ratamahatta]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

You can use the search function and there are plenty of people with swazi gear. I'm not judging by another nation, I'm judging by the words that came out of his mouth "I don't want to lose my rights, but at the end of the day, this is actually not about a part of society losing its rights. It's about the whole of society maintaining their freedom."

 

[displacedtexan]

Never heard of the guy. Hope he stays in Swaziland.
And no, I wont be buying an Swazi gear.

He's in New Zealand...

 

[jpuckett]

LETS ALL CANCEL EVERYONE WITH DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW THAN US!!! THATS WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS WANTED


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[Gutshotem]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

This is why we lose. The other side gets giant corporations to bend the knee at their will. You don't have the time or patience to shop around but have the time to write a dissertation defending this clown.

 

[Hunt4lyf]

I bought The Hood right before he came out on this, it’s a great piece of clothing but it’s wearing thin so I’ll be replacing it with something from a company that shares my values, it’s a shame because I love it and you can’t beat the price.

 

[Michael54]

This is why we lose. The other side gets giant corporations to bend the knee at their will. You don't have the time or patience to shop around but have the time to write a dissertation defending this clown.

Whats worse is someone posting a rant about an article that was written over 3 years ago and has been mentioned in over a dozen threads the past three years.

 

[def90]

Never heard of him/them.. will remember not to buy anything from him/them.

 

[mtnwrunner]

Another voice from a country other than ours giving an opinion on MSR'S.
Thank god we have a constitution.

Randy

 

[displacedtexan]

LETS ALL CANCEL EVERYONE WITH DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW THAN US!!! THATS WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS WANTED


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It's only canceling when it's someone I like other people aren't supporting.

When I do it, it's not supporting those that are different.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

Yup, never head of him, but he must have a big d%&k because he stepped on it.

 

[Maverick1]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

Good points. The gentleman lives in New Zealand - a foreign county, with different culture, customs, norms and values. If someone chooses not to purchase items from his company, that is their right. Exercise those rights. But, if this situation is turned this around, what some people are saying is they would like to enforce their beliefs/rights/culture/customs/values (around semi-automatic weapons) on a foreign country (which they have never stepped foot in?). "I believe it's my right to own a semi-automatic weapon in the USA, and it should be their right in New Zealand, too." Seems kind of backwards.

Wow. Let's extrapolate: "In my state - XYZ - I think it's wrong for the environmentalist groups/PETA/anti-hunters/court systems - to have any say in the way wolves are managed. It should be governed/dictated by biology and science - not emotions, outside influences, or politics" - - - turns around to: "In New Zealand, I think I know what's best for gun control - and semi-automatic weapons shouldn't be banned there, so I am not going to purchase anything from that company."

 

[slatty]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

A very thoughtful and well written response. Thank you for taking the time.
I live in Canada, my firearms landscape and experience is not that relevant to someone in the USA.
I notice he comments only on firearms in New Zealand.

 

[cuerro viejo]

LETS ALL CANCEL EVERYONE WITH DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW THAN US!!! THATS WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS WANTED


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You should absolutely buy products that donate and publicly support ending things like the 2nd amendment and hunting…. That make perfect sense.

Making a company official stance known isn’t cancel culture, it’s simple aligning values.