Stove size

[mfllood3800]

So I am looking at the Kifaru Tipi 4 man or similar for wintering rendevous.
I have 2 questions on this tent.....

1). Whats the best 4 man size tipi/tent for keeping condensation down and holding it's integrity in heavy snow fall areas
- yes I'll nestle it in the trees but ave snow is still in excess of 400" a season here

2). What is the smallest stove capable of heating that in 0-20*? I'll be at 11,000' and snowmobiling into it so weight isn't the issue, its the size to heat ratio

I am looking at building a stove for this and just wonder what size is needed for wood size going into it I guess so I don't have to stoke it every 15 minutes, but don't want to cook myself right out of it either.

What have you guys found sufficient for this tent size and temp configuration?
Thx

 

[mtpackmule]

Have u look into Riley stove from Montana


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[mfllood3800]

I see that most pack tents aren't snow load capable. But I found this shelter that claims it is:
This is a 10x10 and almost that high
So I guess I am now looking for a stove closer to the 8-10 man size.
I am thinking of something around a 5 gl bucket in size?

 

[mfllood3800]

MT
I just checked out Riley
Those are great stoves
I like their tent frames too but don't see where to get the canvas ?

Pretty cool stoves for under $200

 

[mfllood3800]

I guess I would ask what tents (load bearing) would you guys recommend based on actual use. I'm looking at a smaller 8x10, fire stove, non floor, roof fly, 2' rafter centers as I want to leave it up all winter, frt and rear door,

Ive been pricing some and seem to be around $1100 for this complete set up incl stove. But for this much $$ I really need some real world experience with what you have been using and what works.
Thx

 

[colonel00]

As far as stove size, even the smallest stove should heat a shelter just fine. The main thing with stove size is how often you would need to tend to it to add fuel to keep it putting out heat.

 

[Ross]

Look at four dog stoves...my tent is 8x10 and I have used it many times in those temps and use a two dog stove. Stoked it will last 4-6 hours depending on wood type

 

[mfllood3800]

Col
yep that's exactly what I have been looking at, weight isn't a concern for me on this use, stoking it often is the concern.

 

[austinphps]

I'll secomd the 4dog stoves if weight isnt an issue. Used the 3 dog to heat an 8 mean SO tipi. Did awesome, actually more than awesome as it took us awhile to figure out the dampers so we weren't sweating ourselves out. But as Ross said, it will burn for 4-6 hours depending on the wood and how you position the dampers/flue

 

[mfllood3800]

Yea I really like the 4 dog stove options. I'm trying get the right tent. Struggling on the $$$ for the hunt tents when I can get a car port type tent rated for snow fall, for about half the price. I'm gonna do a floorless set up, and PVC rafters on 2' centers is strong enough for the laod. I use PVC to build many things in my hobby world and it is strong as heck.

Been waiting for some used tents and stoves to come up used for sale.

 

[Mad Mountain Mike]

If you are pulling a sled it sounds to me like a small wall tent would be your best option. If you have or know somebody with a mig welder you could build your own air tight stove for around $100. I built this one out of 16 gauge steel. It weighs around 40 lbs and would fit easily into a trappers sled with a 10x12 wall tent and an aluminum internal frame. This set up would handle a snow load and keep you comfortable.

 

[mfllood3800]

MMM
That is what my set up will look like lol
I don't think I need a big stove, just big enough to stoke every 4 or 5 hrs. The spot I am considering requires me to hike about 100 yrds in snow shoes. So I have to be aware of weight to some degree.

I will also be using this in the fall for hunting and will hike in a bit more

I cant wait to get this up and running- your pic looks perfect

 

[huntsman22]

Forget the PVC pipe frame idea in winter. It gets brittle in cold temps, and don't take much load to snap it...... Also the carport type shelters do not breath like canvas and you will have condensation issues. Another thing to consider is wall height. A tent with 4 foot walls has a steeper roof pitch to shed snow than one with 5 foot walls. Any tent left up unattended during periods of heavy snow has a high probability of being on the ground when you get there, no matter the rating of the frame, unless you are there to beat snow off the roof and keep it shoveled away from the walls........

 

[mfllood3800]

Thx for the input huntsman
I have thought about that and have a pretty secluded spot for my set up. I have some other friends who pitch Yurts and leave them all winter. Granted they are much more robust, yet in the open just off a trail. I have a carport set up that isn't that normal EZ up type material, it is actual canvas. But that is all I know about it. You may be correct on its condensation aspect if it isn't in fact woven same as other hunt type tents. Although I suspect it might be. I doubt I will be able to get to it every weekend too, so I need to assess the structural integrity and maybe utilize actual wood pole system from the area as an addition to prevent as you mention snow removal concerns. Ive also heard of metal conduit used as the frame work.

We have well over 6' up in the Mtn already so I am itchin to get up there.