Stop the wolf....

[Ryan Avery]

If those whining about wolves spent a similar amount of time hunting them...something might get accomplished.

Lion, wolf, and bear quotas go unfilled year after year after year.

Spent over 20 days hunting them last winter. Spent at least that many days bear hunting as well and I am not alone. You sure like to whine a lot yourself, just in a different way. Come on up to North idaho this winter and show us how it’s done.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[BuzzH]

Spent over 20 days hunting them last winter. Spent at least that many day bear hunting as well and I am not alone. You sure like to whine a lot yourself, just in a different way. Come on up to North idaho this winter and show us how it’s done.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just spent 26 days hunting them near Cody...tracks but none killed. Could have easily killed several grizzlies and a small black bear. I'll spend another 12-14 days in Montana hunting them. I'll also have another couple months to kill one while hunting cow elk in the predator zone.

I'll do that rather than whine on the internet about them.

I realize unfilled quotas sting...and tell me that 99% of hunters have no interest in doing anything but complain.

If they did, the quotas wouldn't go unfilled.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

That’s the thing with nuance, while hunting and tag allotment may be an very effective tool to manage ungulates, not so much with many predators such wolves and lions. Many factors add to the difficulty of hunting these predators such as limited means ( no trapping, baiting, or dogs) which brings us full circle back to one more reason not to artificially insert an apex predator back into a landscape in mass just to appease the desires of a woefully misinformed population to see some utopian western landscape with no appreciation for the third order consequence.

 

[sneaky]

Yep, trapping is by far the most effective means of controlling the population, but that option will never be on the table in CO.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

 

[BuzzH]

Sounds like lots of excuses...Montana and Idaho allow trapping, quota's still go unfilled.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Like i said Buzz, come on up and hunt/trap in North Idaho. I’ve Hunted and been around Cody, it’s not North Idaho, let alone a place like the Selway.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[JG358]

Yep, trapping is by far the most effective means of controlling the population, but that option will never be on the table in CO.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Sad but true. Hell, we can only use live traps to boot... not even sure its possible to get a big dog in one.

 

[sneaky]

Sounds like lots of excuses...Montana and Idaho allow trapping, quota's still go unfilled.

I just finished up my wolf trapping certification here in Idaho and can target them right out my backdoor. That's what I'll be doing all winter. It certainly won't be from a lack of effort if I don't fill all 10 tags. That's no excuse, just facts. Don't you have a bunch of fanboys over on HT you need to check on?

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

 

[BuzzH]

Like i said Buzz, come on up and hunt/trap in North Idaho. I’ve Hunted and been around Cody, it’s not North Idaho, let alone a place like the Selway.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Like I said, start filling quotas and I'll listen to the whining...

 

[bayoublaster7527]

It was my understanding that this thread was about introducing wolves in CO.......
And since we expanded the discussion to bears, we can thank BHA superstar David Peterson for no spring bear season, baiting and hound hunting. Gotta love hunters helping hunters, probably unrelated to tags going unfilled and the explosion of the black bear population in CO.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Like I said, start filling quotas and I'll listen to the whining...

Haha! You have no clue.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Ross]

Some people yes are clueless and should buzz off some conversations

 

[Okhotnik]

If those whining about wolves spent a similar amount of time hunting them...something might get accomplished.

Lion, wolf, and bear quotas go unfilled year after year after year.

Not in Washington and Oregon, California....

AND YOU CANT HUNT WOLVES IN WASHINGTON, OREGON, MINNESOTA, WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN.

FYI not every state is not like Wyoming. Clueless

 

[Okhotnik]

Spent over 20 days hunting them last winter. Spent at least that many days bear hunting as well and I am not alone. You sure like to whine a lot yourself, just in a different way. Come on up to North idaho this winter and show us how it’s done.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That would require skill as a hunter. Doubt he would take you up

 

[ndbuck09]

Dude Buzz, have you ever hunted wolves? It's not like a cake walk man; it's probably more difficult than most other forms of hunting. Are you just playing devils advocate or something because you like to troll and roll on the floor laughing at how serious people take things??

I have a full time job, save my 8-9 days out of my 15 for elk and deer hunting and I don't have any more room to take days off to go after wolves too. I have to leave some days for family stuff. Many I would bet are in my same boat too and it's not exactly to get at wolves in central Idaho in the winter when you have 5 day a week job in the metro areas of Idaho. I shot at 3 different wolves in September archery seasons with my 10mm pistol but they were all at 60-70 yards the different times I had them coming in. I guess if I told you these stories, you'd just say I shoulda had a rifle too...so my bad, my fault. Now we won't hit the quota so it's all hunters' fault.

 

[BuzzH]

Haha! You have no clue.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Enough of a clue to know that whining doesn't control wolf population or fill quotas.

Dude Buzz, have you ever hunted wolves? It's not like a cake walk man; it's probably more difficult than most other forms of hunting. Are you just playing devils advocate or something because you like to troll and roll on the floor laughing at how serious people take things??

I have a full time job, save my 8-9 days out of my 15 for elk and deer hunting and I don't have any more room to take days off to go after wolves too. I have to leave some days for family stuff. Many I would bet are in my same boat too and it's not exactly to get at wolves in central Idaho in the winter when you have 5 day a week job in the metro areas of Idaho. I shot at 3 different wolves in September archery seasons with my 10mm pistol but they were all at 60-70 yards the different times I had them coming in. I guess if I told you these stories, you'd just say I shoulda had a rifle too...so my bad, my fault. Now we won't hit the quota so it's all hunters' fault.

Check out the percentages of hunters that don't even buy a wolf tag...tell me how "hard" the average hunter is trying to kill a wolf. MT, ID, and WY nearly give wolf tags away and yet, they don't sell many in comparison to other big-game tags.

Like I said, if the same amount of time was spent hunting them as whining about them, maybe a few quotas would be filled.

That wont happen though...one requires commitment the other a mouth and a keyboard.

Oh, and it sounds like wolf hunting must not be that hard if you shot at 3 on your 9 devoted days of hunting....

 

[BuzzH]

That would require skill as a hunter. Doubt he would take you up

Hang some pics of all the wolves you've shot, tuffie.

 

[ndbuck09]

its a ball park number 9 business weekdays my friend. Hunted 17 days in September total with weekends this year. Additionally, just so you realize it, it can also be used as a gauge to show just how many wolves are actually out there if I'm seeing them that close that much....

I agree that people don't target them that much but at some point fish and game agencies, public opinion, etc. has to establish a normative basis, which is "X" number of people buying wolf tags, "X" number of wolves being killed. Establishing a "quota" number is a pie in the sky and the basis is that hunting doesn't get it done to the level it needs to in keeping wolf populations steady.

In conclusion, I've never had wolves or sign from that that I've seen in my drainage while I've hunted it in the previous 5 years. Now they were thickkkk. I don't think it's a situation of ease as much as populations splitting packs off and taking up new home ranges.

 

[Ryan Avery]

@BuzzH

Yes, mouthing off is very easy!

 

[Idaho Sandman]

Like i said Buzz, come on up and hunt/trap in North Idaho. I’ve Hunted and been around Cody, it’s not North Idaho, let alone a place like the Selway.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Boy you’re not kidding there. I lived/hunted in Cody for a number of years, still go back when i draw tags, then Montana before moving to the CDA area several years ago. The hunting here is a totally different animal.