Stone glacier sold out?

[SDHNTR]

My goodness, CA is not that bad!

 

[flyfisher117]

I’ll take some puffy pants and a tent for a good deal from anyone wanting to boycott the brand.

 

[Marshfly]

I've been eyeing a new pack. Thanks to this thread I found a great deal on a 3600. To whoever posted that things are being discounted at retailers, thank you.

 

[BRTreedogs]

My goodness, CA is not that bad!

Yes it is.

 

[Timberline001]

My goodness, CA is not that bad!

Sure it’s not compared to Washington, or anywhere back east but going from Montana to California is wild. Talk about leaving heaven for hell.

 

[Poser]

Sure it’s not compared to Washington, or anywhere back east but going from Montana to California is wild. Talk about leaving heaven for hell.

From what was mentioned above, sounds as if their shipping operations are being consolidated with the other sub brands and that operates out a single warehouse in CA. While it likely eliminates most of the SG warehouse jobs, that consolidation likely increases the profit margin a good bit and further reduces the overhead as The SG hq stays in Bozeman but in a shared space with Simms. I don't know if it will ultimately be good or not, but as also mentioned above, their shipping prices were high and this consolidation may reduce that.

 

[fngTony]

It could bring jobs or secure current jobs in the new warehouse, at least it’s not going overseas.

 

[Fitz]

Is there a quality hunting clothing brand that hasn't sold out?

 

[SDHNTR]

Sure it’s not compared to Washington, or anywhere back east but going from Montana to California is wild. Talk about leaving heaven for hell.

Politics aside, I have literally caught Tuna and big largemouth, and shot elk and pigs, all in the same weekend.

 

[Bcoonce117]

Sure it’s not compared to Washington, or anywhere back east but going from Montana to California is wild. Talk about leaving heaven for hell.

Being a California resident, and having visited Montana on occasion, I can confirm that California is indeed hell.

 

[CMP70306]

Hopefully this fixes their shipping rates/calculator. I wanted to order something a couple weeks ago and shipping was $18.95 no matter what was in my cart. I understand it costs that much to ship a frame, but accessories or apparel?

I can't blame Kurt for cashing out, but man that company was so much better before the sale..

Was thinking the same thing, went to go buy the puffy pants and it was $14 to ship them. They weigh less than 16oz!

Have you guys looked at the cost of shipping lately? The only thing costing less than $18 to ship is some of the USPS flat rate shipping envelopes, pretty much anything touching UPS is going to be more expensive.

Politics aside, I have literally caught Tuna and big largemouth, and shot elk and pigs, all in the same weekend.

California as a location is fantastic for that reason, it’s all the people who took over the state that make it suck.

 

[cornfedkiller]

Have you guys looked at the cost of shipping lately? The only thing costing less than $18 to ship is some of the USPS flat rate shipping envelopes, pretty much anything touching UPS is going to be more expensive.

Yeah I ship stuff here and there, and with Pirate Ship, I can't remember the last time something cost me $20 to ship something.. I just looked back and a 30x7x6 box that weighed 7.5# cost me $15 to ship to Texas.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I get that its maybe $18+ to ship a frame, but a pair of gloves, gaiters, etc or even a pack that gets folded up and shipped in a plastic bag?

 

[Lawnboi]

My only worry is how this move will effect their US made pack customer service and repair process. Almost everyone is getting their tech clothing from overseas and not repairing much of anything.

Not having a facility to continue to provide service and repair for their packs would likely lose a lot of serious customers.

 

[butcherboy]

I have a few products from SG. A bino harness, gaiters, and some gloves. I’ve tried their apparel many times and just don’t like it. Seems like they put this weird seem right across the chest that reminds me of maternity clothes. Everything is tight, tight. I’m a big barrel chested guy not some “skinny athletic fit” guy. Nice packs but I don’t particularly like the hip belt. It’s nice to have a lot of different options out there.

I do prefer my T&K bino harness and gaiters more than SG.

 

[TylerDurden3]

I have a few products from SG. A bino harness, gaiters, and some gloves. I’ve tried their apparel many times and just don’t like it. Seems like they put this weird seem right across the chest that reminds me of maternity clothes. Everything is tight, tight. I’m a big barrel chested guy not some “skinny athletic fit” guy. Nice packs but I don’t particularly like the hip belt. It’s nice to have a lot of different options out there.

I do prefer my T&K bino harness and gaiters more than SG.

The seems go across the chest so the weight of the pack dosent ride on the seems on your shoulders.

 

[fngTony]

The seems go across the chest so the weight of the pack dosent ride on the seems on your shoulders.

Ya but there’s other ways of doing that. Was a hard no for me as well with the seem and the stomach pocket.

 

[butcherboy]

The seems go across the chest so the weight of the pack dosent ride on the seems on your shoulders.

I’m sure they had good intentions and a lot of designing went into it but it still feels weird to me and I don’t like it. Their clothes are just too tight for me even going up in sizes which
now also makes everything extremely long.

 

[mt terry d]

My goodness, CA is not that bad!

Compared to what very low bar?

My only worry is how this move will effect their US made pack customer service and repair process. Almost everyone is getting their tech clothing from overseas and not repairing much of anything.

Not having a facility to continue to provide service and repair for their packs would likely lose a lot of serious customers.

Everything nowadays, including vehicles, are being designed/engineered and sold as disposable.
Repair? Hardly. Keep production costs low enough to be able to replace if still in warranty.
Out of warranty just buy the "New and improved/Updated" version.

I believe Kurt was and is 100% not that way but doubt he's in complete control anymore.

If you can't beat 'em, you don't have to join them, but you do have to adapt and survive.
We all do.

 

[Lawnboi]

Compared to what very low bar?

Everything nowadays, including vehicles, are being designed/engineered and sold as disposable.
Repair? Hardly. Keep production costs low enough to be able to replace if still in warranty.
Out of warranty just buy the "New and improved/Updated" version.

I believe Kurt was and is 100% not that way but doubt he's in complete control anymore.

If you can't beat 'em, you don't have to join them, but you do have to adapt and survive.
We all do.

This is part of the reason Iv bought exo, they have expressed that’s now what they want to happen with their company, I’m hoping they keep their word.

Even kifaru seems to be going to disposable gear.

 

[BasicUtahrd95]

Compared to what very low bar?

Everything nowadays, including vehicles, are being designed/engineered and sold as disposable.
Repair? Hardly. Keep production costs low enough to be able to replace if still in warranty.
Out of warranty just buy the "New and improved/Updated" version.

I believe Kurt was and is 100% not that way but doubt he's in complete control anymore.

If you can't beat 'em, you don't have to join them, but you do have to adapt and survive.
We all do.

Kurt, along with a few others, left the company around the beginning of the year.