Stock Ergonomics... Buttpad height.

[wind gypsy]

Yes- because their guns weigh 30lbs, have zero movement in recoil. They primary shoot from tripods and barricades and do zero dynamic shooting. It isn’t general hunting, and is a mistake not to understand where PRS is hurting techniques for people not comporting in PRS with PRS gear.

If scoring of PRS was changed to “time plus”- that is total time it took you to hit all targets: so whoever hits all targets the fastest, wins; the bolt rifles would start to look suspiciously similar to what we talk about.

I’m curious what you mean by dynamic shooting? Because there can be lots of movement and differing rests on a stage.

Also, what about the typical prs setup makes it slow? They are commonly called race guns.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I was curious about this and totally ignorant of it, so I did a quick google search. It seems that more serious shooters are in the 20-25 pound range with 24-28” barrels. And the low end mentioned was 12-16 pounds. My heaviest deer hunting rifle is 10.8 pounds with a 28” barrel (counting suppressor). The heaviest rifle I’ve carried was a 14.8 pound .22-250 I used while walking around the farm looking for groundhogs. My lightest deer rifle is about 8.8 pounds. Based on the posts in threads about hunting rifle weight on RokSlide, my rifles are at the heavy end of what most hunters carry.

Here’s a short clip about it I thought seemed to show what it typically looks like.

The timing aspect of the course suggests that you do have to move and establish positions relatively quickly. Having 90-120 seconds to take 8-12 shots seems typical. That’s on a known course from one stable, established position with a bag to another.

Comparing any of that to hunting rifles or hunting situations seems a bit absurd. I’d estimate my typical time to take a shot where I hunt is well under five seconds. The buck who gave my friend’s son time to set up on my backpack and rear bag and then at least 30 seconds to decide he had a clear 220-yard shot (the buck was partially obscured by some branches and we were hoping the buck would step into the clear) was a serious aberration.

And that’s not to suggest that PRS doesn’t take skill. It clearly takes skill, but, in my opinion, it is a game that doesn’t in any way replicate field shooting on live animals or combat. It has much in common with other competitive martial arts in that regard. Or sports in general for that matter.