Speed vs Accuracy?

If I get a slow accurate load and fast but less accurate load, then I'm going to be playing with different overall lengths and components until I find one that is both fast and accurate. Only accurate rifles are interesting to me but I also prefer a certain amount of speed in a hunting rifle as I always shoot monos. If it were just a target load/rifle then I would likely just settle for the first load that meets my accuracy expectations and not try to get one that is both fast and accurate. My .02
 
I can absolutely tell the difference between 3/4 and 1/2 moa from prone with a bipod in field conditions and anyone who can shoot worth a damn can as well. That is the dumbest thing I will read this week guaranteed. If you really feel so strongly about the last remark you need to put the rifle down and pick up a recurve. Like I said if you are so ignorant that you feel you can't learn from benchrest we have zero to discuss. I am done arguing. I have better things to do. Pick your speed have a ball.
Funny you mention a recurve because most of my game animals have been taken with one over the past 30 years.

IF we do the math, the difference in 1/4 MOA at the extreme distances that even a skilled and ethical hunter will shoot, amounts to less than a few inches under ideal conditions. When you factor in flight time for that projectile, an animal that takes even one small step in that moment will change your point of impact far more than 1/4 MOA. So again, unless you've trained all your game to stand perfectly still, it's pointless to argue 1/4 MOA difference.
 
3/4 moa is accurate ENOUGH for anything I'd use that combination for. Accubonds aren't particularly soft bullets in my experience, so that combined with good enough accuracy I'd opt for the faster load.
 
The H4350 is temp insensitive. That IMR4350 might be good now at 70* and not perform the same at 15*

Go back with the H4350, work up in .3-.5gr increments and try to chrono them at the same time. I’ve found using my Lab Radar, I often times find a load with excellent accuracy and low SD/ES and that will become my hunting load.

I’ve also found that the longer bullets need a few hundred yards to “settle down”. I’ve had them shoot MOA at 100 and 200 yards to have them be consistent 1/2-3/4” MOA at 500-600 yards.
 
Anyone have an opinion about ballistic truing as a way to estimate your velocity if you don't own a chrono? What I mean is, I think my load shoots a certain speed for my load. I make an elevation adjustment for 600 yards, and shoot a 5 shot group at 600 yards. If the whole group is 4" high, I'm underestimating my speed and I adjust the speed on my ballistic calculator until it reads 4" high at 600 yards. I repeat the process until I'm hitting dead on at 600. It seems to work for me. What are peoples thoughts on this? Should I just buy a chrono?
 
Anyone have an opinion about ballistic truing as a way to estimate your velocity if you don't own a chrono? What I mean is, I think my load shoots a certain speed for my load. I make an elevation adjustment for 600 yards, and shoot a 5 shot group at 600 yards. If the whole group is 4" high, I'm underestimating my speed and I adjust the speed on my ballistic calculator until it reads 4" high at 600 yards. I repeat the process until I'm hitting dead on at 600. It seems to work for me. What are peoples thoughts on this? Should I just buy a chrono?

You can do it that way. However, you're assuming the rated ballistic coefficient of your bullet is exactly as advertised.
This is pretty rare, especially since things like twist rate, muzzle brake style and even rifling style can affect a bullet's ballistic coefficient. You're also assuming your scope tracks perfect...it may, but have you proven this beyond all doubt?

Assuming the b/c and scope are perfect and adjusting your velocity to fix drop discrepancies can cause some issues with long range predictions. To 600 yards you'd be just fine though.


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Anyone have an opinion about ballistic truing as a way to estimate your velocity if you don't own a chrono? What I mean is, I think my load shoots a certain speed for my load. I make an elevation adjustment for 600 yards, and shoot a 5 shot group at 600 yards. If the whole group is 4" high, I'm underestimating my speed and I adjust the speed on my ballistic calculator until it reads 4" high at 600 yards. I repeat the process until I'm hitting dead on at 600. It seems to work for me. What are peoples thoughts on this? Should I just buy a chrono?


Definitely a smart move to get a chrono if you're gonna reload.
 
I like speed and accuracy. What qualifies as good accuracy and speed depends on the individual I guess. Some people are perfectly happy with .75" groups, I wasn't. When I had had my semi custom 300 Win Mag built I wanted to shoot 200 Gr ELD-X's faster than the 2800 fps the Hornady factory loads were getting. I wanted to shoot them into the same hole if possible.
It took some work but at 2960+ fps I was able to find what I was looking for. The gun shoots ragged holes with that load.

That might be going to the extreme but that is why I had that rifle built. Fast and accurate was what I wanted.
 
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