Small caliber regret

[43.6N]

Yeah, no regrets here. Ive shot a lot of guns (like a lot of us) but the main weapons carried have been:
Started with 7-08
Then archery for 15yrs
Then 300wby
Then 300wsm
Then 6.5cm
Now 22 creed is in the works.

The diameter of my bullet is far from being what keeps me from ethically harvesting an animal.

 

[huntnful]

My dad's voice is bouncing through my head in reading this. He has a way of being really abrasive and sometimes funny in pointing out "obvious" truths one of us is missing. He also always hammered home the fundamentals of stalking and getting in close when I was a kid, with wind, tracking, route-planning, etc.

So, a couple of years ago I was talking about wanting to take a long-range class and be able to take animals out to 600 or 700 yards or so. And he just says, "Or, you know, you could just be a better hunter."

That kinda stung.

But I still want to be able to get to 600 with absolute reliability.

Hahaha he’s definitely not wrong. But man, there are a lot field opportunities in that 5-600 yard range that you can take advantage of with a very high probably of success with the right equipment and practice.

I definitely see some of the older generation looking down their nose at the new age killing abilities. Which is understandable.

I JUST finished a hunt in WY with a great dude. He’d never glassed off a tripod, or shot off a bipod. He talked shit about it the whole time lol. I sent him into a spot I was confident in and he ended up glassing his buck off a tripod, and killing it off a bipod. He didn’t say we were right in how we hunt, but certainly didn’t have anything negative to say haha.

He was just used to hunting by covering a ton of country and snap shooting deer he basically stumbled upon. Was still a VERY successful hunter. There’s just more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[TaperPin]

Lol

You are correct- I only talk about things I have done repeatedly- not fictitious dreams. Of course you didn’t answer the question, because yours is much closer to “0” than “lots”.

The last going away shot was 10 days ago or so with @ztc92. The bull fell immediately.

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Lol
You think the more times you repeat yourself, the more people believe your advice.

I just lay out what I personally believe and why, and people can take it however they want, give a good thought or not even pay attention to it, but you sound offended and feelings are hurt when someone doesn’t believe your view of the world.

 

[Wavehere]

No regret. I mainly only shoot 223 and 6cm now. Heck I’ve got a Sako 300wm sitting at the back of the safe that doesn’t even have a scope on it anymore

Haha sounds like your priorities have shifted! Once you get comfortable with .223 and 6CM, it’s hard to go back cheap to shoot, easy recoil, and still super accurate. That poor .300WM is probably feeling neglected back there

 

[SloppyJ]

I have a gun in every caliber from 223 to 30 and multiples in some. If I'm doing my normal deer hunting around here, I'm grabbing my 6 creed most of the time or my 25. Since coming down in size I've noticed I shoot more often, I'm a much better marksman, and it's way cheaper.

Now with all of that said, I still have that 300prc in the back of the safe that I can bust out and just recently did on an elk hunt when I expected a longer shot. Could I have done it with the 6 creed? You bet. I don't regret using it one bit because it's one of the rifles that I shoot the best. Next season, I'm taking my 25 western and 135s to try out.

I guess you could say I'm somewhere in the middle but trending smaller quickly. When I first started this journey, the smallest cartridge I owned was a 280ai to take these 150lb southern whitetail. At this point my son has dropped more of them with his .223 than I ever have.

 

[RockAndSage]

I JUST finished a hunt in WY with a great dude. He’d never glassed off a tripod, or shot off a bipod. He talked shit about it the whole time lol. I sent him into a spot I was confident in and he ended up glassing his buck off a tripod, and killing it off a bipod. He didn’t say we were right in how we hunt, but certainly didn’t have anything negative to say haha.

He was just used to hunting by covering a ton of country and snap shooting deer he basically stumbled upon. Was still a VERY successful hunter. There’s just more than one way to skin a cat.

Lol, if you hadn't said WY, I'd have sworn you were describing my dad here. He'd also $h*t a brick if I told him I was going to hunt elk with a .223.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Took that shot a few years ago in Wyoming, 300ish yards, 280AI, 162 ELDX in factory Hornady Precision Hunter ammo. Went from back to front with the projectile resting against the front skin. The front part of projectile fragmented away but the rest of the projectile drove the length of the mule deer. DRT.

You mean a .287 sd rapid expansion type bullet at relatively moderate impact velocity is a good formula?

Amazing to me so many still try to answer headstamp related questions with anything other than sd construction impact velocity related answers. It’s a lot simpler and removes a lot of noise.

You chose a great formula! Nice shooting too btw lol

 

[TaperPin]

That would be my argument, yes, as “heavier bullets going faster” tells you nothing about its construction. Example: a heavy FMJ out of a 22” 243 won’t kill faster than a 77TMK out of a 16” 223.


Get more experience in the field then. Alternatively, do some reading.

You obviously don’t pay much attention to details. I was talking the same construction of bullets. You guys are so upset anyone would suggest that hunters have found the 6mms to be lacking, that it’s funny. If you like them great, all I’ve suggested is every bullet has its limitations, which I would have thought you’d agree with.

 

[huntnful]

Lol, if you hadn't said WY, I'd have sworn you were describing my dad here. He'd also $h*t a brick if I told him I was going to hunt elk with a .223.

My 22 creed freaking slaps. I’d hate to be bull on the other side of an 80 ELDM at 3400fps. Guess what? You can also shoot them twice in 5 seconds and double the wound channel size and destruction lol.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I killed my first buck with this presentation, going dead-away from me, with a shot to the base of the neck.

At 110yds, 150gr 30-06, the impact cracked the skull-cap between the antlers 6 inches above the entrance point, and blew out several vertebrae below the entrance. This angle is a much more viable shot to the neck than side presentations of the neck, IMO, and I'd have no problems taking the shot in the photo short of 200yds, in good conditions.

I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking, “what a great presentation for a head or neck shot.”

My attitude towards the “Texas Heart Shot” is to think, “Excuse me, waiter, I would like my venison tenderloin bloodshot with a side of stomach contents and shit, please.”

 

[Formidilosus]

Lol


Lol
You think the more times you repeat yourself, the more people believe your advice.

I just lay out what I personally believe and why, and people can take it however they want, give a good thought or not even pay attention to it, but you sound offended and feelings are hurt when someone doesn’t believe your view of the world.

Again- it’s very simple: How many shots at that angle have you taken on animals? How many were recovered? With what calibers, bullets and impact velocity?

 

[atmat]

You guys are so upset anyone would suggest that hunters have found the 6mms to be lacking, that it’s funny.

I’m not upset. Just pointing out errors in your logic — it’s a hobby at this point.

 

[RockAndSage]

My 22 creed freaking slaps. I’d hate to be bull on the other side of an 80 ELDM at 3400fps. Guess what? You can also shoot them twice in 5 seconds and double the wound channel size and destruction lol.

Waiting for MTC to get their Marshall dialed in for normal production - once that's done, I'll definitely be looking forward to getting one in .22 CM.

 

[TaperPin]

I’m not upset. Just pointing out errors in your logic — it’s a hobby at this point.

So, you think a 100 gr 6mm Ballistic tip is more deadly than a 25 cal 115 gr Ballistic tip going faster? That’s pretty simple, but you get in a bunch arguing something completely different.

 

[TaperPin]

Again- it’s very simple: How many shots at that angle have you taken on animals? How many were recovered? With what calibers, bullets and impact velocity?

You want to bla bla bla all day about how people describe shots, like they have no idea, but only you do, like you discovered hunting. It’s funny.

 

[huntnful]

Waiting for MTC to get their Marshall dialed in for normal production - once that's done, I'll definitely be looking forward to getting one in .22 CM.

It’s to the point that I’m probably not even going to mess with anything else under .264 (unless out of boredom), because the 22CM is seriously legit.

I had EVERYTHING to build a 25 PRC. Once I put my 22CM barrel back on, I remembered that it would be pointless, and sold all the 25 PRC shit lol.

 

[RockAndSage]

It’s to the point that I’m probably not even going to mess with anything else under .264 (unless out of boredom), because the 22CM is seriously legit.

We're seriously missing out in not rebranding it as 556 Nitro Express.

 

[huntnful]

We're seriously missing out in not rebranding it as 556 Nitro Express.

556 Lazeroni lol. 556 Kerby Allen Magnum.

 

[43.6N]

We're seriously missing out in not rebranding it as 556 Nitro Express.

Hahahaha
I’m seriously going to use that the next time I see my bro

 

[AZ_Hunter]

No need for a magnum , just a nice bonded bullet, those explosive bullets mean the difference between gut shot and a lethal shot into the vitals

Does it though? I have never shot an animal up its ass, but seeing the carnage a 130TMK does for example on multiple animals, I’m curious to what would happen. I would guess the absolute destruction of the guts would not feel too good and may even result in some spine damage allowing for a follow up shot.