SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[HuntHarder]

Using a Scythe? I had a guy PM me his injuries as well, but no Scythe and he is in litigation with Sico as well.

 

[HuntHarder]

If my kid got scoped, I would probably sue them TBH. That can and usually does, leave a permanent scar.

 

[Formidilosus]

If you mean my comment about TI cans in general? Yes, there are reports of Dead Air and OCL ti can failures. I can't personally verify but they reported. If thermal breakdown is a negative aspect to TI, then possibly is should not be used in suppressors as they do tend to get HOT. Just an observation.

Ti isn’t a problem with cans. Thin, untested, junk cans are.

 

[mtwarden]

Has anyone actually been hurt by a can letting go?

I was simply answering this question

 

[peaches]

Ti isn’t a problem with cans. Thin, untested, junk cans are.

I appreciate unvarnished opinions but am not ready to go that far yet.

At this point, lots of us are stuck with a 'suspect' can that one year ago was the darling of the 'net, including here. I guess worst case, we may have an oversized/expensive 22LR can that can hopefully survive a couple .233 rounds occasionally for a clean out.

 

[HuntHarder]

I was simply answering this question

Gotcha, so no serious injuries that you know of with a Scythe Ti letting go.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Gotcha, so no serious injuries that you know of with a Scythe Ti letting go.

There was a kid who cut his eyebrow….theres been several people who are like “yeah I know of a bunch of people who got hurt….,but I won’t give details…..”

 

[Formidilosus]

I appreciate unvarnished opinions but am not ready to go that far yet.

Sure. You do what ever you like. But I’m not guessing on whether Ti cans are good suppressors. I’ve shot and been present for testing for well over a hundred thousand rounds from Ti cans.

At this point, lots of us are stuck with a 'suspect' can that one year ago was the darling of the 'net, including here. I guess worst case, we may have an oversized/expensive 22LR can that can hopefully survive a couple .233 rounds occasionally for a clean out.

No it wasn’t. It was a bunch of people that got sucked into “specs” with no understanding. When the Scythe was brand new I stated that people need to be very cautious. I’ve wanted about multiple cans- but still, people can’t look past “specs” and see the lack of testing. I understand that you, and others may not have the ability or experience to know what to believe, but some do.

Welded cans, especially very thin and light Ti cans do have more issues than steel cans. Properly designed printed Ti cans do not. Overall they are the most consistent and reliable suppressors available.

 

[peaches]

No it wasn’t. It was a bunch of people that got sucked into “specs” with no understanding. When the Scythe was brand new I stated that people need to be very cautious. I’ve wanted about multiple cans- but still, people can’t look past “specs” and see the lack of testing. I understand that you, and others may not have the ability or experience to know what to believe, but some do.

Welded cans, especially very thin and light Ti cans do have more issues than steel cans. Properly designed printed Ti cans do not. Overall they are the most consistent and reliable suppressors available.

Sorry, appreciate your input but you are not the final on all matters firearms related. Many other 'experts' here and elsewhere were highly praising the Scythe. I know you from other forums that you no longer frequent when your grasp exceeded your reach.....

If you predicted potential problems initially with this can, then congrats, but you are not telling me that the Scythe bandwagon wasn't rolling at full steam with a variety of experts (shills?) praising it. I waited a full year to get one; guess I didn't wait long enough.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Sorry, appreciate your input but you are not the final on all matters firearms related. Many other 'experts' here and elsewhere were highly praising the Scythe. I know you from other forums that you no longer frequent when your grasp exceeded your reach.....

If you predicted potential problems initially with this can, then congrats, but you are not telling me that the Scythe bandwagon wasn't rolling at full steam with a variety of experts (shills?) praising it. I waited a full year to get one; guess I didn't wait long enough.

Apples to oranges, but I was 100% gonna buy a Scythe til I was picking up a rifle at a local shop and they had a Scythe I was able to lay hands on. After fondling it I felt that it was fragile and tinny and ended up reevaluating and getting the XC. Dodged a bullet maybe but point being there was some red flags and not everybody praised it.

 

[peaches]

I actually found a you tube video where a guy caught a failure on film. Check out 1:50 to see the end fly off. Surprisingly, he just kept shooting not realizing at first what happened.

 

[wind gypsy]

@peaches there’s been a whole lot of tbac ultra 7s in the wild for years, many on high volume competition rifles. I’ve not heard of a bunch of issues. They aren’t alone. I feel pretty confident ti cans can do just fine.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

@peaches there’s been a whole lot of tbac ultra 7s in the wild for years, many on high volume competition rifles. I’ve not heard of a bunch of issues. They aren’t alone. I feel pretty confident ti cans can do just fine.

I wish I’d just been boring and bought a 2nd ultra 7 instead of my scythe.

 

[Lawnboi]

Titanium is not the issue. If heating repeatedly was an issue my cans would have blown up long ago.

I’m hundreds of cycles of 10-12 rounds in 90 seconds on multiple ti cans and have never had a failure.

This is a problem with what they are doing putting it together.

I’ll also only buy titanium because it’s cheap and easy to clean.

 

[parak]

Caution against drawing any conclusions based on this single datapoint, but here are before and after weights measured on a cheap Amazon scale:

6.39 oz New (no caps)
6.51 oz Repaired (no caps)

8.46 oz New (with caps)
8.59 oz Repaired (with caps)

New


Repaired

Note: The “repaired” tube stack appears to be entirely new -- perfectly clean bare metal.

Failure

 

[HarvDog]

20” 6.5PRC, roughly 250 rounds 147ELDM. Leave for a mule deer hunt in 11 days, guess i’ll zero the Enticer TI.

 

[Clark33]

I know not every Scythe owner on RS has taken the poll, but of the ones who have a 21% failure rate is obsurd. Has silencerco addressed this at all? Product Liability anyone?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I know not every Scythe owner on RS has taken the poll, but of the ones who have a 21% failure rate is obsurd. Has silencerco addressed this at all? Product Liability anyone?

It is absolutely ridiculous but that being said, it’s likely closer to 10% since the thread was moved and the poll was lost. It was at 10-11% before it was switched over, I don’t think everybody that initially contributed has voted again.

I don’t say that to protect SiCo, 10-11% is still unacceptable, the data just got corrupted. I’d guess there was a lot of people who made accounts just to cast a vote and don’t look at RS regularly or something.

 

[HarvDog]

I know not every Scythe owner on RS has taken the poll, but of the ones who have a 21% failure rate is obsurd. Has silencerco addressed this at all? Product Liability anyone?

I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume most guys that have no issues will not vote. I didn’t vote, until today!

 

[bradb]

It is absolutely ridiculous but that being said, it’s likely closer to 10% since the thread was moved and the poll was lost. It was at 10-11% before it was switched over, I don’t think everybody that initially contributed has voted again.

I don’t say that to protect SiCo, 10-11% is still unacceptable, the data just got corrupted. I’d guess there was a lot of people who made accounts just to cast a vote and don’t look at RS regularly or something.

It was at 15%
But more the 10-15% for me was the much greater number of votes to get to the %