SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[wind gypsy]

You only hear about a products negatives, never the positives.

Not justifying the Scythe for the faulty product. But am curious on the total number of cans sold and how many have failed.

Ill say this, when I first looked at buying cans, I did look hard at the Scythe, even after buying my AB I still wanted one. This thread has now made me loose that desire. Now it looks like ill be supporting ID suppressor makers instead.

Yeah, i see zero reason to buy a scythe now. Too many good alternatives.

They will continue to sell a pile of them though. Capitol armory or SS will recommend them if you call and ask for input. Box stores like Scheels will sell a bunch of them.

 

[Tahoe1305]

So

Dead air sandman and nomads were at least as bad just not as heavily owned/hyped when new by this crowd.

I dont think its normal or within acceptable tolerances. But this thread definitely over represents the failure rate and I'd bet a paycheck that less than 1% of scythes sold have failed because most of them probably dont get many rounds through them. When someone has it happen and googles failing scythes, this thread is top and center. When someone says their scythe failed on facebook/gram/reddit/another forum, this thread is immediately linked and a nudge is given to "go report it on the rokslide poll". Nobody is telling everyone who owns a scythe to sign up on rokslide and report that it hasn't blown up like they do for the failing ones. 3 of the last 5 failure posts have been someone's first post on rokslide.

even let’s say at 1%. I believe they’ve said a few times they’ve sold “1000 a month” in a few calls folks (including myself) have made.

Let’s assume there’s 20k cans out there (that seems like a ton, but who knows).

200 failures? And we just happen to have a little under 1/4 of those on rokslide.

There’s not that many folks who give a ish about forums or social media. Even so….that’s too many for a product that attaches to a weapon and could cause harm.

 

[Flyjunky]

Dead air sandman and nomads were at least as bad just not as heavily owned/hyped when new by this crowd.

I dont think its normal or within acceptable tolerances. But this thread definitely over represents the failure rate and I'd bet a paycheck that less than 1% of scythes sold have failed because most of them probably dont get many rounds through them. When someone has it happen and googles failing scythes, this thread is top and center. When someone says their scythe failed on facebook/gram/reddit/another forum, this thread is immediately linked and a nudge is given to "go report it on the rokslide poll". Nobody is telling everyone who owns a scythe to sign up on rokslide and report that it hasn't blown up like they do for the failing ones. 3 of the last 5 failure posts have been someone's first post on rokslide.

True, but I’d rather have people come here to report it vs not knowing.

The % might be low but I can tell you that I will never buy one. I was set on getting one for my daughter’s rifle but went a different route.

If SiCo came out and said something, anything, to at least address the problem I might rethink owning one but as of right now there are too many other good cans on the market and more coming.

 

[IDVortex]

Yeah, i see zero reason to buy a scythe now. Too many good alternatives.

They will continue to sell a pile of them though. Capitol armory or SS will recommend them if you call and ask for input. Box stores like Scheels will sell a bunch of them.

They're the can that is well known, that all the big box stores know and can sale easily. It goes back to, we live in a society of not researching and understanding what we buy. This is why people will always believe wallop is the only thing that matters

 

[wind gypsy]

So

even let’s say at 1%. I believe they’ve said a few times they’ve sold “1000 a month” in a few calls folks (including myself) have made.

Let’s assume there’s 20k cans out there (that seems like a ton, but who knows).

200 failures? And we just happen to have a little under 1/4 of those on rokslide.

There’s not that many folks who give a ish about forums or social media. Even so….that’s too many for a product that attaches to a weapon and could cause harm.

Good # crunching. 36 of 200 or about 18%, seems like a reasonable ballpark actually? Might be in that 1% neighborhood..

 

[HuntHarder]

There’s not many. But the folks that think this is normal or within acceptable tolerance are crazy (respectfully ).

How many other suppressors do we all own collectively. There’s been nothing like this I’ve seen. Even if the scythe is the best selling can on the market (it should be btw outside these issues), there are way too many failures.

Who thinks this is normal or within acceptable tolerance?

 

[Bluefish]

Good # crunching. 36 of 200 or about 18%, seems like a reasonable ballpark actually? Might be in that 1% neighborhood..

Even at a 99.97% good, that’s still 3 per month that are failing. If they had a 1% failure and sell 1k per months that’s 1 every 3 days that fail. So yes, they are probably below 1% failure rate. Problem is no one wants to be the ones that fail at a critical time.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Who thinks this is normal or within acceptable tolerance?

If you read back through the thread, a handful of folks. And most importantly SiCo……

 

[jkoehle1]

If you ask me SICO simply skimped on rating this for proper barrel lengths.

Not a good idea to run one on a 20" magnum - probably true of most TI cans and certainly lightweight high suppression models.

 

[IDVortex]

If you ask me SICO simply skimped on rating this for proper barrel lengths.

Not a good idea to run one on a 20" magnum - probably true of most TI cans and certainly lightweight high suppression models.

But it doesn't even hold up with non magnum calibers....

 

[MagnumHntr]

Who thinks this is normal or within acceptable tolerance?

Suppressors really only became popular to the general population last year when e-file came about. What other cans are out there that there are more than 22,000 made?

 

[jkoehle1]

But it doesn't even hold up with non magnum calibers....

Failures do happen in any instance.

After looking through the thread - short magnums blowing them up seems to be the most common with standars cartridges the outliers.

 

[TxLite]

Suppressors really only became popular to the general population last year when e-file came about. What other cans are out there that there are more than 22,000 made?

They’ve been popular for a lot longer than that. Eform 4 was released 4 years ago. I’m sure there are lots of suppressors that have sold well since then.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Dead air sandman and nomads were at least as bad just not as heavily owned/hyped when new by this crowd.

I dont think its normal or within acceptable tolerances. But this thread definitely over represents the failure rate and I'd bet a paycheck that less than 1% of scythes sold have failed because most of them probably dont get many rounds through them. When someone has it happen and googles failing scythes, this thread is top and center. When someone says their scythe failed on facebook/gram/reddit/another forum, this thread is immediately linked and a nudge is given to "go report it on the rokslide poll". Nobody is telling everyone who owns a scythe to sign up on rokslide and report that it hasn't blown up like they do for the failing ones. 3 of the last 5 failure posts have been someone's first post on rokslide.

It would be worthwhile to see what percentage of wkrs have one and haven't had it fail vs ones who have.

 

[mtwarden]

Suppressors really only became popular to the general population last year when e-file came about. What other cans are out there that there are more than 22,000 made?

Could you link where you found out there was 22,000 made?

 

[JJ.]

If you ask me SICO simply skimped on rating this for proper barrel lengths.

Not a good idea to run one on a 20" magnum - probably true of most TI cans and certainly lightweight high suppression models.

I picked the scythe as my very first can, because it was rated for shorter barrel RUMs. If they had said it may not stay together on shorter barrel rums, I’d have picked a different can.

 

[HuntHarder]

Could you link where you found out there was 22,000 made?

Would that help you buy one?

 

[MagnumHntr]

Could you link where you found out there was 22,000 made?

New serial numbers are into the 23,000

post 915 is into the 22,000 range

 

[MagnumHntr]

They’ve been popular for a lot longer than that. Eform 4 was released 4 years ago. I’m sure there are lots of suppressors that have sold well since then.

I should have said e-file with quicker approval times.

ATF registration processed forms-
2022-709,508
2023-1,069,787
2024- 1,373,305

almost double the application forms between 2022-2024

 

[Lawnboi]

If you ask me SICO simply skimped on rating this for proper barrel lengths.

Not a good idea to run one on a 20" magnum - probably true of most TI cans and certainly lightweight high suppression models.

This just isn’t the case. Thunder beast has been making titanium cans designed with this intent for a long time