Silencer Central Lobbying Against Removing Suppressors from NFA?

[7RemMag]

Not voting doesn’t make you clever. Hold your nose if you must, but exercise your right for chit sake.

I have a buddy that likes to badmouth both sides and doesn’t vote because of his “disapproval” of the candidates. He sounds like a petulant child honestly.

Then again you never have to be “wrong” when you don’t pick a side. That sense of moral superiority must feel like a pretty warm blanket considering how many people lay under it.

No sense of moral superiority here. One is entitled to their beliefs in this country, and if voting for a candidate that they may not support makes one feel good about "exercising their right", so be it. It goes without saying that "the perfect candidate" doesn't exist, and I'm not looking for that. Just one that stood for even half of my beliefs and principles would be great....I don't see that in any of the candidates in recent history, and so I opt not to vote.

Putting two different types of slop on a plate and telling me I get a choice which one isn't really giving me much of a choice, is it? Especially not when the ones serving the slop are eating T-bone steaks on the other side of the counter. Hurray for me, though.... I "exercised my right".

 

[RockAndSage]

No sense of moral superiority here. One is entitled to their beliefs in this country, and if voting for a candidate that they may not support makes one feel good about "exercising their right", so be it. It goes without saying that "the perfect candidate" doesn't exist, and I'm not looking for that. Just one that stood for even half of my beliefs and principles would be great....I don't see that in any of the candidates in recent history, and so I opt not to vote.

Putting two different types of slop on a plate and telling me I get a choice which one isn't really giving me much of a choice, is it? Especially not when the ones serving the slop are eating T-bone steaks on the other side of the counter. Hurray for me, though.... I "exercised my right".

Sounds like you need to run for office.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Putting two different types of slop on a plate and telling me I get a choice which one isn't really giving me much of a choice, is it? Especially not when the ones serving the slop are eating T-bone steaks on the other side of the counter. Hurray for me, though.... I "exercised my right".

But if you don't eventually pick one to eat then you starve to death which is counter productive.

Sure in a perfect world we could all hold out and select a perfect candidate, but it's a bit more important to not lose and end up with worst case scenario candidate so we compromise. It's the system we've got to work with and it's not changing.

 

[7RemMag]

It's the system we've got to work with and it's not changing.

Just imagine if the Founding Fathers took that approach...

The only person that starves in that scenario is the person that is incapable of free thought. Remember those T-bone steaks the fat cats serving the slop were eating? Why not question why you're being served slop?


In this case, I'm not asking for a perfect candidate. You and I both know that doesn't exist and you know that isn't what I'm suggesting. However, if any of the last several presidential candidates we've been offered is all the closer we can come, we're truly doomed. That goes for either side. I can't in good conscience vote for anyone who so blatantly goes against my political and/or personal beliefs...And I won't. It's that simple.

Sounds like you need to run for office.

It's not a job I'd wish for. It's not something I would wish for myself nor my family. The President and their family make sacrifices that I'm sure I can't even begin to imagine. The hell of just running for office has to be something I'd hate to even imagine. You will never hear me discredit any of them for that, no matter how much I may dislike or disapprove of one of them.

 

[idahodave]

So your answer is not to vote? and you're not not interested in running yourself?

Do you have a solution in there somewhere?…beyond “give me someone I agree MORE with?”

Do you really think not voting is sending a message? If so, what is that message and to whom do you believe you’re sending it?

 

[TandKHunting]

I for one think suppressors should not be an NFA item. I may be biased as we sell hundreds of can covers a week and I'm a stout 2A advocate, but I did talk with one of my buddies that runs a small suppressor manufacturing business.

He stated one problem with the hearing protection act is that the government could try to outlaw suppressors all together if it became a non NFA item. I think that's the initial concern for some seeing the realistic pros and cons. Not saying that would happen, but it could happen. And going to court is always a toss up.

Similar to what the ATF tried to do with super safety / FRT triggers. They tried saying these triggers were in violation of the NFA by being "fully auto". The triggers in question reset and don't fall under the definition of being fully auto. The ATF recently lost in federal court with a judge ruling in favor or Rare Breed Triggers, which makes super safety / FRT triggers legal to own.

Just know if it becomes a non NFA item with no tax the gov will probably fight it.

 

[z987k]

To be fair. Why buy from them when there are other companies that dont have suspect intentions?

Its not like they are a perfect company but for this one thing.
There are pages and pages of people that have had bad experiences with SC products and buying process.

I've always wondered how they've kept their sales up all this time. Their in house suppressors are not the best out there by any means. There's a lot of horror stories online about being approved for months and no shipping or SC not submitting the paperwork for months. And then a lot of people have pretty bad customer service with them to.
I called them once to talk about one of their cans and the guy had a terrible attitude. So I didn't buy.

 

[displacedtexan]

Not voting doesn’t make you clever. Hold your nose if you must, but exercise your right for chit sake.

I have a buddy that likes to badmouth both sides and doesn’t vote because of his “disapproval” of the candidates. He sounds like a petulant child honestly.

Then again you never have to be “wrong” when you don’t pick a side. That sense of moral superiority must feel like a pretty warm blanket considering how many people lay under it.

I'm exercising my right to do as I feel compelled.

I'm not trying to be clever. I'm trying to act in harmony with my personal convictions.

 

[7RemMag]

So your answer is not to vote? and you're not not interested in running yourself?

Do you have a solution in there somewhere?…beyond “give me someone I agree MORE with?”

Do you really think not voting is sending a message? If so, what is that message and to whom do you believe you’re sending it?

I'm exercising my right to do as I feel compelled.

I'm not trying to be clever. I'm trying to act in harmony with my personal convictions.

THIS...100%....No Message is trying to be sent to anyone. I simply cannot in good conscience endorse any of the candidates in the last couple elections. I don't feel that any of them represent me sufficiently to deserve my vote. Whoever wins, it is by the will of the rest of the country. I don't have to like that-But as a citizen of this country, I damn sure ought to accept it. That doesn't mean I can't be critical of the people's choice though, either. It pleases me to know I'm not the only one that thinks this way.

If voting for one individual or another suits your fancy, that is your choice. But, and I mean this with the utmost respect, don't preach to me about how I should exercise my "right to choose" when my only real "choices" are "Bad" and "Worse" and which of the two options is Worse seems to vary on any given day.

 

[idahodave]

I simply cannot in good conscience endorse any of the candidates in the last couple elections.

That doesn't mean I can't be critical of the people's choice though, either.

We’ll agree to disagree I guess. Not voting and then bitching about the outcome of those that did seems…well, stupid honestly. Just my opinion, and you’re welcome to label me the same for voting for Trump.

Democracy is the foundation of this country. Not participating is certainly your right, even if it does run counter to the good of the country. I happily served this country so you could maintain that right, even if I disagree with it.

 

[7RemMag]

We’ll agree to disagree I guess. Not voting and then bitching about the outcome of those that did seems…well, stupid honestly. Just my opinion, and you’re welcome to label me the same for voting for Trump.

Democracy is the foundation of this country. Not participating is certainly your right, even if it does run counter to the good of the country. I happily served this country so you could maintain that right, even if I disagree with it.

And I appreciate that you were willing to serve this country to protect that right.

If I had voted for either one of those clowns I still wouldn’t have been happy because it wouldn’t have been what I actually wanted, I’d still be bitching. So why not just skip a step?

For the record, I’m not making this point about Trump vs _____ although president kinda got the spotlight. It applies to all positions in government. I’m a Truck Driver /Equipment Operator. When I do a shitty job, I’m held accountable and reprimanded It seems with plenty of these politicians, we just re-elect them…Hey, at least he’s better than the other guy, right?

 

[displacedtexan]

THIS...100%....No Message is trying to be sent to anyone. I simply cannot in good conscience endorse any of the candidates in the last couple elections. I don't feel that any of them represent me sufficiently to deserve my vote. Whoever wins, it is by the will of the rest of the country. I don't have to like that-But as a citizen of this country, I damn sure ought to accept it. That doesn't mean I can't be critical of the people's choice though, either. It pleases me to know I'm not the only one that thinks this way.

If voting for one individual or another suits your fancy, that is your choice. But, and I mean this with the utmost respect, don't preach to me about how I should exercise my "right to choose" when my only real "choices" are "Bad" and "Worse" and which of the two options is Worse seems to vary on any given day.

Well said.

 

[displacedtexan]

We’ll agree to disagree I guess. Not voting and then bitching about the outcome of those that did seems…well, stupid honestly. Just my opinion, and you’re welcome to label me the same for voting for Trump.

Democracy is the foundation of this country. Not participating is certainly your right, even if it does run counter to the good of the country. I happily served this country so you could maintain that right, even if I disagree with it.

For what it's worth, I'm also not one to complain about the outcome.

Back to the "lesser of two evils"... I don't really see either side really impacting my day to day life.

I still run my business, I still have my guns, I still have my beliefs.

Yeah, some policies definitely do, but I feel good that none of the policies or decisions I don't like have my vote attached making them possible.

 

[RockAndSage]

I feel good that none of the policies or decisions I don't like have my vote attached making them possible.

This is one of the most WTF things I've ever heard out of a fellow American.

Evil prevails when good men do nothing, brother. And not voting is just that.

 

[average]

Refusing to pick evil is not doing "nothing"

 

[RockAndSage]

Refusing to pick evil is not doing "nothing"

What is this, Clown Night? Are you telling us every single person in every single race on your ballot is evil?

Or do you think the only person worth voting for must agree with you 100% of the time?

ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. VOTE.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

The primary is the time to flex your vote and show your idealisms, general election is the time to keep the worse one out of office. Not voting is half a vote for the worse candidate.

 

[Stache Attack]

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Wow canned responses and some big big lobby companies they are using. Potomac has been known to make things disappear or emerge rapidly in DC. I haven’t loved the sound of their cans myself. Seems like every friend of mine has atleast one, I’m glad I didn’t grab one. I like to see my dollars go other places.

 

[2ski]

Imagine if all the "I'm not going to vote because I dont like either" got together and voted for an independent. You might win an election....

 

[omicron1792]

To say you still run your business and shoot your guns AND say neither candidate effect that is just not being honest.