Signed up for the Covid Zombie Juice.....

Deadfall said:
Creepy can any way you shake it. If this vaccine is indeed a good deal. Sure makes a guy wonder how it is cancer, AIDS, and so on are still problems. Guess there's no money in healthy people...
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Well, AIDS really isn't a problem anymore if one can get the drugs. Which are covered by insurance and have a government sponsored program for those who can't afford them.
 
I’m getting mine in the morning before I clock out.

Been on the fence but have been talking to several of my colleagues and the vast majority are getting it as well.
 
No vaccine for me or the kids. My wife just recovered from covid barely sick for 3 or 4 days. She's a RN in a hospital so it was a matter of time honestly. Its made about 3 rounds thru the staff and it hits a few everytime it comes thru. How I didn't catch covid from her is beyond me at this point.
 
I am a long ways from being offered it, but will continue to follow the publicly available data and will probably get the vaccine once offered to me. 50, one lung, history of respiratory disease. So far the side affects of the vaccine seems more mundane that the disease itself.
 
I would feel like the vaccine process made more sense if they tested people for antibodies before administering the vaccine. It seems odd to me that with a miniscule supply, there is not any thought to that in an effort to make the most efficient use of the quantity available.
 
dieselchessy said:
I'm not a medical guy, not even close.

#1: If you've had Covid and your body dealt with it. Then why would folks suggest you get the vaccine? Is the vaccine somehow expected to provide longer term resistance than actually having the virus?
#2: Considering the timeline we're dealing with, how could folks make any conclusions about the questions in #1.
#3: Does the Covid vaccine contain "Immune Booters" like squalene similar to the Anthrax vaccine?
I was given the Anthrax vaccine in the late 90's when all that mess was going on. I survived, but not so sure I want to spin the wheel a second go.

I've heard it said that if you've had Covid or tested positive for antibodies, that you should hold off on the vaccine and see how things play out.
To me this seems logical.
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I am a medical guy, for about 35 years. Still leading frontline teams. Some answers:
1. You are correct, in most diseases having the disease beats the vaccine. However, covid appears to be different. The persistence of natural immunity has significant variation in duration and antibody levels between individuals, not related to severity of disease. The mRNA vaccines seem to enhance the antibody levels, especially more than 3 months after recovering from infection. The duration and durability of immunity from the vaccine isn't nailed down yet, but looks like it will last longer than infection derived immunity.
2. Based on antibody studies on covid patients and vaccine trial participants over the last 9 months
3. Negative on the squalene or thimerosol or other nasty stuff put in some of the mil spec vaccines some of us got back in the day. The Pfizer vaccine is really clean by comparison. All except those nanolocation tags and mind control agent. Just kidding.
There is no reason not to get the vaccine if you had covid previously. It's rare, but some incredibly lucky people have gotten covid twice. Some health systems are "de-prioritizing" healthcare workers who have had covid in the last three months because vaccine is in short supply. As for waiting to see how things play out, we already know what the first 3 months after the Pfizer vaccine looks like in tens of thousands of people in the phase 3 clinical trial- and it was pretty damn good. I took the vaccine yesterday.
My only worry is that I'll starve to death as a zombie because so many people's brains have been turned to unthinking mush by social media.
 
JayTx said:
No vaccine for me or the kids. My wife just recovered from covid barely sick for 3 or 4 days. She's a RN in a hospital so it was a matter of time honestly. Its made about 3 rounds thru the staff and it hits a few everytime it comes thru. How I didn't catch covid from her is beyond me at this point.
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Just a fyi, 16 and up to receive the vaccine. We've had a few get it, a bad flu is how they described it. No lasting effects. An ex co-worker, now elsewhere got it. Was vented for 3 months and is now out receiving extensive rehab. His life will likely never be the same.
 
Deadfall said:
Creepy can any way you shake it. If this vaccine is indeed a good deal. Sure makes a guy wonder how it is cancer, AIDS, and so on are still problems. Guess there's no money in healthy people...
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A patient cured is a customer lost
 
I was offered a spot on the early vaccine list here. I asked if I would be exempt from travel quarantines and wearing a mask if I were to be vaccinated.....the answer was no. So why take the vaccine if I’m not allowed to return to normalcy???

I declined my spot on the early list.
 
I am considered to be a part of the medical community, as a psychologist, despite working for a school district. I have given this considerable thought and have come to the conclusion that I will get the vaccine as soon as I am able. However, my turn will come at the end of the list for medical staff. By that time multi-millions of people around the world will have gotten it. Considering the current timelines, if they hold true, I am looking at getting in about April, give or take. Considering my age, and the health issues I have been going through (most resolving, thank God), For me, this benefits clearly outweigh the risks. But then I am no spring chicken; which is also a part of my consideration.
 
The interesting thing is that we have right near 5% of the total population in the U.S. that have tested positive over the last ~11 months without a vaccine. The vaccines are claiming a 95% effective rate.......which means there's a 5% rate of non-effectiveness even with the vaccine........right at the same percentage we have now even without a vaccine......LOL.
 
5MilesBack said:
The interesting thing is that we have right near 5% of the total population in the U.S. that have tested positive over the last ~11 months without a vaccine. The vaccines are claiming a 95% effective rate.......which means there's a 5% rate of non-effectiveness even with the vaccine........right at the same percentage we have now even without a vaccine......LOL.
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What’s your point?
 
highstepper said:
I am a medical guy, for about 35 years. Still leading frontline teams. Some answers:
1. You are correct, in most diseases having the disease beats the vaccine. However, covid appears to be different. The persistence of natural immunity has significant variation in duration and antibody levels between individuals, not related to severity of disease. The mRNA vaccines seem to enhance the antibody levels, especially more than 3 months after recovering from infection. The duration and durability of immunity from the vaccine isn't nailed down yet, but looks like it will last longer than infection derived immunity.
2. Based on antibody studies on covid patients and vaccine trial participants over the last 9 months
3. Negative on the squalene or thimerosol or other nasty stuff put in some of the mil spec vaccines some of us got back in the day. The Pfizer vaccine is really clean by comparison. All except those nanolocation tags and mind control agent. Just kidding.
There is no reason not to get the vaccine if you had covid previously. It's rare, but some incredibly lucky people have gotten covid twice. Some health systems are "de-prioritizing" healthcare workers who have had covid in the last three months because vaccine is in short supply. As for waiting to see how things play out, we already know what the first 3 months after the Pfizer vaccine looks like in tens of thousands of people in the phase 3 clinical trial- and it was pretty damn good. I took the vaccine yesterday.
My only worry is that I'll starve to death as a zombie because so many people's brains have been turned to unthinking mush by social media.
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I just saw a report from the UK that they've discovered about 17 different mutations from this virus. Will the current vaccine protect against those?

How will this ever end if the virus keeps mutating?
 
Back in 2002, I invested in a new drug called ZONAGEN. It was to the next Viagra. Stock shot up super high and my investment was looking solid! After two years and checking it every now and then, it stabilized, still at a high number. STILL NOT APPROVED BY THE FDA! In year 3, it was declined by the FDA after 4 years of trials. My stock went to hell before i could sell it. Caught me by surprise. If , after 4 years of testing a pecker drug, the FDA denied approval, I am very skeptical of any vaccine approved in such a short time. I had CV in august. I was fine in 4-5 days after mild symptoms. I dont get flu shots and i havent had the flu in 20+ years. I am 51 and I did get both rounds of shingles vacc this year. Dont need any of that shit getting me down.
 
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