Sighting in knight ultralight

[ocurtis]

Getting ready for hunting season in a couple weeks here in WA with my new knight ultralight I bought right before they decided they were worth Gold. Anyways...

Shooting carnivore smackdown 305 grain (50 cal) with 2 pellets of triple 7. Fairly consistently hitting 2" groups at 100 yards

WA allowed red dots this year so I have the Leopold.

What I noticed was that with a clean bore, the bullet seated pretty easily. After one show and a dry swab, it's difficult but not impossible. After a second shot even with dry swab, it's damn near impossible. This seem right with Y'all? A lot to learn with ML hunting but looking forward to it! Pretty happy so far

 

[lazydrifter]

What primer are you using? Probably getting a crud ring from a 209 primer. I use Blackhorn 209 in my knight and even after 12 shots it loads the same.

 

[ocurtis]

What primer are you using? Probably getting a crud ring from a 209 primer. I use Blackhorn 209 in my knight and even after 12 shots it loads the same.

Yes 209 primer. And yeah lots of crud in the when I removed the breach plug. Is this what you mean? Is there a better solution?

 

[lazydrifter]

Use a 209 Muzzleloader primer. Or get used to swabbing after every shot.

 

[ocurtis]

Sorry if I didnt understand, I am using a 209 muzzleloader primer - Winchester #209 triple 7 primers

 

[lazydrifter]

Well that should work. I've never shot pellets. I know when I used to shoot Triple 7, I used western ignition. Musket cap or #11. I would swab with a mixture of rubbing alcohol and windex.

 

[Muleyczy]

Well that should work. I've never shot pellets. I know when I used to shoot Triple 7, I used western ignition. Musket cap or #11. I would swab with a mixture of rubbing alcohol and windex.

I have a knight and swabbed the same as mentioned above . @sabotloader would know. Might be worth asking him

 

[PathFinder]

That's normal for T7 powder. Changing primers isn't going to affect fowling, it's dirty no matter what. When I used it I used to swab every other shot.
Blackhorn 209 powder will allow many more shots without swabbing if it's legal there.

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[Honyock]

As @PathFinder said, Triple 7 is dirty. Not as bad as Pyrodex but not a lot better. If you want easy to load after 5 or 6 shots and easy to clean up, Blackhorn 209 is the ticket. It's definitely not cheap but it sure is nice.

 

[ocurtis]

As @PathFinder said, Triple 7 is dirty. Not as bad as Pyrodex but not a lot better. If you want easy to load after 5 or 6 shots and easy to clean up, Blackhorn 209 is the ticket. It's definitely not cheap but it sure is nice.

thank you - I just have a hard time getting on board with $90 for 8 oz, even if I could find it... if I ever find it local I guess I will have a decision to make. until then, lots of swabbin!

 

[tracker12]

I have a Knight UL and I swab with a patch damped with windex after each shot. It dries very quickly because of the alcohol in it. I can shoot all day with this method and T7.

 

[crimson702]

You have a few options. Like others are suggesting, you can switch to BH209, which really reduces fouling.

You can also try sizing your own bullets, or buying bullets that are meant to be used bullet to bore. Then you can get bullets that are are ever so slightly more loose than the sabots you are using, and can probably get 3-4 shots with triple 7 without cleaning.

You can also try other sabots that may be easier to get down the barrel.

The final option is to use patches soaked in windex every 2-3 shots. To do this, take patches and put them in a container with windex. After the patches have absorbed as much as the can, squeeze as much windex out of the patches as possible so they are just slightly moist, and put the patches into a airtight container or bag. Then, for cleaning, you take a patch and range rod or cleaning rod with an undersized brush (i.e. .45 cal brush for a .50 cal barrel). Run the patch down with the brush, and the brush's bristles will "catch" the patch and bring it back up with it, without taking the breech plug out. Flip the patch and run again. Then perform the same action with a dry patch. Shoot a primer to ensure the barrel is dry, and load and shoot. Then you only have to take out the plug/do a thorough clean when you are done shooting.

Good luck, muzzleloaders can be challenging to figure out at first, but once you understand them and dial in a load they are truly a joy to shoot!

 

[bowhunthard88]

These made a world of difference when I was shooting Triple Se7en: https://www.prbullet.com/vf.htm

I have since switched to BH209, and haven't looked back...