Sierra Heavy TMK 6MM Testing

[Kaleb]

I think you have that mixed up. Lots of guys here that do their own. What good is the love for hunting if you're not enjoying both sides of it?

I think we've all been guilty of getting some processing done for time's sake but that shouldn't take away from the overall experience. Although, I do find it more fulfilling if I'm munching on some snack sticks or any other product that I made myself.

When you just quote my reply and not what I was speaking to it's a little misleading. I didnt mean any disrespect or make assumptions people here don't make their own meat. What I was replying to was bullet performance caliber choice and shot placement....for food sake. One comment was made about for food and killing/hunitng and my reply before that was all my killing is with food in mind too. The point was I don't have one bullet(or caliber) for hunting and another for killing. It's one in the same to me. Like I said I have them ordered and I'm excited to try them. I'll use them and if they don't seem to work. for me I'll use what does. I fully expect if I don't shoot them in the meat they won't destroy the meat. I mentioned that too. Again what that post I made was replying to was the if I was shooting food statements since I always am. Like I said I'm always interested in the ways other people do theirs. I was wrong to assume its not important here.

 

[Jake Larsen]

When you just quote my reply and not what I was speaking to it's a little misleading. I didnt mean any disrespect or make assumptions people here don't make their own meat. What I was replying to was bullet performance caliber choice and shot placement....for food sake. One comment was made about for food and killing/hunitng and my reply before that was all my killing is with food in mind too. The point was I don't have one bullet(or caliber) for hunting and another for killing. It's one in the same to me. Like I said I have them ordered and I'm excited to try them. I'll use them and if they don't seem to work. for me I'll use what does. I fully expect if I don't shoot them in the meat they won't destroy the meat. I mentioned that too. Again what that post I made was replying to was the if I was shooting food statements since I always am. Like I said I'm always interested in the ways other people do theirs. I was wrong to assume its not important here.

I think the distinction is something like this:

You’ll see Form and others reference “killing” bullets. These 116s are lethal, as in, they’re great bullets to kill with. For example, great choice in culling environment. In that use case, a bullet favoring DRT/Maximum carnage makes sense. Are those animals being used for meat also? Probably in some cases at least, but that’s not really the goal.

Very different scenario from many guys, who have a couple tags each year in the western states. If they’re going to eat wild game all year, they may be relying on an elk and a deer or two. Which means if they put one of these 116s through the front shoulders of an animal, it could legitimately leave a hole in the freezer. I know many guys who fall into this category. They’re doing great to kill an elk and a deer on OTC tags every year.

That’s why I said originally that for many guys, the “food” hunts and the “fun/trophy” hunts are the same thing. For those guys, finding a bullet sits somewhere around “adequate killing wound channel” might be more desirable than “horrific cannonball wound”


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[Kaleb]

I think the distinction is something like this:

You’ll see Form and others reference “killing” bullets. These 116s are lethal. Many people use these kind of bullets in culling environment. In that use case, a bullet favoring DRT/Maximum carnage makes sense. Are those animals being used for meat also? Probably in some cases at least, but that’s not really the goal.

Very different scenario from many guys, who have a couple tags each year in the western states. If they’re going to eat wild game all year, they may be relying on an elk and a deer or two. Which means if they put one of these 116s through the front shoulders of an animal, it could legitimately leave a hole in the freezer. I know many guys who fall into this category. They’re doing great to kill an elk and a deer on OTC tags every year.

That’s why I said originally that for many guys, the “food” hunts and the “fun/trophy” hunts are the same thing. For those guys, finding a bullet sits somewhere around “adequate killing wound channel” might be more desirable than “horrific cannonball wound”


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I understand that. If I shoot a few deer and loose some shoulder meat I can shoot some more deer to more than make up for it. I guess not everyone has that opportunity. Thanks

 

[doc holiday13]

I’m anxious to see what the .25 cal offerings produce. Looks like no tracking needed.

I have some of the new unspecified heavyweight 25cal TMKs on order. I do deer culls during the summer. My gunsmith has my 25 creed on its way to my house now, so I hope to have load dev done by late April(assuming the bullets are in hand by then), and we'll start shooting does in late May or June

 

[Fireflyfishing]

I have some of the new unspecified heavyweight 25cal TMKs on order. I do deer culls during the summer. My gunsmith has my 25 creed on its way to my house now, so I hope to have load dev done by late April(assuming the bullets are in hand by then), and we'll start shooting does in late May or June

I have a 25 CM barrel and stock on the way…hopefully I’ll see them at the end of the month.
I was on Sierra’s site yesterday and they only list a 131 gr TGK…nothing for the TMK. Maybe I’m missing something…

 

[Axlrod]

I have a 25 CM barrel and stock on the way…hopefully I’ll see them at the end of the month.
I was on Sierra’s site yesterday and they only list a 131 gr TGK…nothing for the TMK. Maybe I’m missing something…

I don't think they have finalized that one, weight wise.

 

[doc holiday13]

I have a 25 CM barrel and stock on the way…hopefully I’ll see them at the end of the month.
I was on Sierra’s site yesterday and they only list a 131 gr TGK…nothing for the TMK. Maybe I’m missing something…

I haven't used the TGK or TMK. I have shot about 10 deer with the SMK though.. Very explosive and work very well but they're very soft. I don't actually like their performance. They like shed the jacket on entry and throw lead in all sorts of directions. Never had an exit with them
I managed to get on a list for getting some of the first release on TMK's. If they're no good(in my book) for killing, then at minimum I'll have enough to shoot a couple NRL matches

 

[streamerfish]

I think the distinction is something like this:

You’ll see Form and others reference “killing” bullets. These 116s are lethal, as in, they’re great bullets to kill with. For example, great choice in culling environment. In that use case, a bullet favoring DRT/Maximum carnage makes sense. Are those animals being used for meat also? Probably in some cases at least, but that’s not really the goal.

Very different scenario from many guys, who have a couple tags each year in the western states. If they’re going to eat wild game all year, they may be relying on an elk and a deer or two. Which means if they put one of these 116s through the front shoulders of an animal, it could legitimately leave a hole in the freezer. I know many guys who fall into this category. They’re doing great to kill an elk and a deer on OTC tags every year.

That’s why I said originally that for many guys, the “food” hunts and the “fun/trophy” hunts are the same thing. For those guys, finding a bullet sits somewhere around “adequate killing wound channel” might be more desirable than “horrific cannonball wound”


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This was a good post/explanation.

 

[Stocky]

Info on the 108 and elk would be appreciated. Considered using them on bigger animals than deer

Im pretty sure @pathnz has killed a decent number on animals (red deer so not quite the size of elk (a big stag is like a spike and a spike is like a cow but bigger definitely significantly bigger than your deer) with them in the 6GT. Not as many as he has with the 223 but should have a decent sample size.

What would be recommended for Fallow deer in my 6.5 prc, 130gr or wait for the 153gr TMK to arrive in New Zealand. I’m currently running 143 eld-x but prefer the tmk’s


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Anything expanding really. Its hard to not kill fallow with any of the match 6.5 bullets. Personally the ELD ms are the best value here in NZ. I wouldnt bother getting to worried though. All fallow ive shot with the 223 have died faster than those i killed with the 6.5 creed and the 147s which I often found not particularly violent compared to some other eld ms