Sierra Heavy TMK 6MM Testing

[Ajsomp]

Any news on the .25?

They mentioned they don’t have settled weight yet. They said they are sending them out to have people test them before they finalize

 

[Halligan]

I stopped by the booth as well and was pleasantly surprised to see them actively showing the ballistics gel results they've achieved with multiple TMK calibers/weights out to range. Additionally, when I asked about factory offerings of the TMK, they wouldn't say, but their non-verbal reactions told me "stay tuned".

Interestingly, seems their terminal performance design rational for the different lines are as follows (yardages change with cartridge but this is the gist)
TGK- 400-500 and In
TMK- 800-1000 and in
Matchking X- Way way wayyyyy out there

 

[jonnyviceroy]

I stopped by the booth as well and was pleasantly surprised to see them actively showing the ballistics gel results they've achieved with multiple calibers/weights out to range. Additionally, when I asked about factory offerings of the TMK, their non-verbal reaction told me "stay tuned"

Their response to people praising the tmk for hunting has been very interesting to note in comparison to Hornady if you mention hunting with the eldms. Makes me just want to reach for the green boxes even more.

 

[alexnelon]

I stopped by the booth as well and was pleasantly surprised to see them actively showing the ballistics gel results they've achieved with multiple calibers/weights out to range. Additionally, when I asked about factory offerings of the TMK, their non-verbal reaction told me "stay tuned"

Regarding factory loaded TMKs, I wonder if it will go similarly to how Cliff Gray thinks scope changes will go, where they change things behind the scenes without calling attention to it.

Sierra spent so long saying that match bullets aren’t for hunting, I’m interested to see how they handle the about-face without uproar from the traditionalist guys.

 

[Halligan]

Regarding factory loaded TMKs, I wonder if it will go similarly to how Cliff Gray thinks scope changes will go, where they change things behind the scenes without calling attention to it.

Sierra spent so long saying that match bullets aren’t for hunting, I’m interested to see how they handle the about-face without uproar from the traditionalist guys.

I don't think you're off the mark here, but I think Sierra is very aware of the rise of data-based consumer groups, who seek out information from places like here, making that about face much easier to do in a more public fashion. Simply, they can point the fud lords to the kill threads and say "look, a jury of your peers field tested it and it works".

This is in stark contrast to the scope companies who, if they make the changes necessary to reasonably hold zero, would have to admit they had been knowingly making a subpar product.

In short, Sierra is in the boat of "we didn't originally design it for this, but the evidence shows we should market it this way now" vs. say (Insert whatever scope brand) who would be in the "we told you our product was great and amazing and purged with unicorn farts, but we kinda sorta forgot to make things stay put, so we fixed it... after denying there was problem" boat.

 

[Ajsomp]

I stopped by the booth as well and was pleasantly surprised to see them actively showing the ballistics gel results they've achieved with multiple TMK calibers/weights out to range. Additionally, when I asked about factory offerings of the TMK, they wouldn't say, but their non-verbal reactions told me "stay tuned".

Interestingly, seems their terminal performance design rational for the different lines are as follows (yardages change with cartridge but this is the gist)
TGK- 400-500 and In
TMK- 800-1000 and in
Matchking X- Way way wayyyyy out there

I asked about a TMK in the 140 range and was told unlikely given the match king x. When I expansion velocities for the bullets at lower velocity, he said matchking x hands down. So now that has me wondering what testing they are doing behind the scenes

 

[Gstew1930]

Regarding factory loaded TMKs, I wonder if it will go similarly to how Cliff Gray thinks scope changes will go, where they change things behind the scenes without calling attention to it.

Sierra spent so long saying that match bullets aren’t for hunting, I’m interested to see how they handle the about-face without uproar from the traditionalist guys.

I dont think they will due to legal reasons

 

[jonnyviceroy]

I asked about a TMK in the 140 range and was told unlikely given the match king x. When I expansion velocities for the bullets at lower velocity, he said matchking x hands down. So now that has me wondering what testing they are doing behind the scenes

When I talked to some of the guys at sheep show they brought up “down-loading” loads for ballistic tests and wouldn’t say a specific number of how low of velocity they were seeing expansion but he made sure to emphasize “very low” repeatedly