Yep those are my thoughts exactly. The scythe is still the can to beat for most western hunters in my opinion. If im just at the range, yes, the raptor 10 and DD L-TI sound amazingly quiet and thats what im gonna use. But they are both long and heavy and the scythe suppesses plenty good. My friend and i shot my short barreled 22cm the other day, and it reconfirmed our previous ranking last time we went out to compare cans. When we shot them on my 300 prc though, the differences were more noticeable than they are with the 22cm