Shoot2Hunt University

For me it’s a “feel” and “familiarity” thing, as well as “looks” like was mentioned above.

I grew up shooting wood stocked rifles. When I switched some guns and built new guns with carbon stocks, it took some time to get used to the “feel” and the more “hollow” and “echo” sound they make when a bolt action is manipulated. It’s not to say it’s a “bad” thing at all, it’s just different.

Going back to a wood stock sort of feels like “home” again and while there can be “disadvantages” to a wood stock over carbon, to me it’s worth it for the feel/nostalgia/sound/look.



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Looks like you are preferential to Orange! Definitely should not get shot by accident!
 
I hope you get a chance to handle one, I think you’d immediately feel the difference. I’ll start by stating I’m no expert in wood stocks. The weight of wood is on par with carbon fiber. There’s a noticeable difference in “resonance”. The wood just feel dead where carbon fiber or plastic vibrates? For lack of a better word. Wood is warm and sexy. It’s timeless. Mike from alpine rifles builds some beautiful stocks. I’m have an appreciation and respect for the craftsmanship. I hope somebody else has some better words for what I’m tryin to say, but they’re worth it.


Mike's wood rides nice, guys.

I'm sure he'll let you handle it if you're not sure yet.


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CTR is same action + pic rail and a bigger barrel. I have one. To use it with a rokstok you’d either need to get the CTR inlet and use CTR BM and mags or add a magazine spring from a normal T3X and then get a normal T3X bottom metal to use with the standard tikka inlet. I just recently did this with a CTR for my dad that I converted from CTR BM and mags to standard T3X BM and mags. Works perfect.
The bottom inlet rails on the rokstok are too wide regardless of the bottom metal inlet used. I had to send my rokstok back in for Alek to open up the inlet in order for the metal mags to feed up high enough for the bolt to grab a round. They probably are aware of this now but it's a good idea to specify the extra work when you order a CTR inlet rokstok.

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Because it’s pretty.

I have spent the last month looking at Cerakote patterns and paint jobs and I just keep looking at the gorgeous wood.

I even asked my daughter to help me pick a color and showed her a bunch of swatches. She looked at them and then pointed at the walnut stock on my CZ and said, “you should get one that looks like that.” When even the 8-year old female mini-me says walnut, I know it’s the right answer.

To me, these are “hunting rifles.” I am going to sell them because I can’t suppress them without defiling them, but I want modern, suppressed rifles that fit this aesthetic.

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The wooden rokstock lite is what you want if that's the style you're going for.
 
The wooden rokstock lite is what you want if that's the style you're going for.

I got a wooden RokStok (regular) for my RSS in 6.5 CM. I am going to get the wooden RokStok lite for the .223.


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Jay just posted a fantastic recap/review of the course. Seriously was looking forward to his take, as he is such an analytical guy that is able to articulate things so well. He’s also a flawed human like all of us, but is able to own this and using it to provide valuable insight into human nature and grow from these things.

Jay nailed it.
 
The course and Form were awesome. The course and Form were AWESOME, yes I thought it was worth repeating. As for the hunt, two of us decided to skip the first day of hunting and shoot with Form (awesome decision!) Two of us got a nice bear, one of us had to leave early for a family emergency and could not hunt, two of us saw sows, and one of us saw nothing. The course was 100% worth it, I always considered myself a good shot, I had no idea how much I sucked (prone was easy, positional kicked my ass!!) The lodging and food was great!! The guides were top notch and truly gave us everything they had. Over all, I had the time of my life with a rag tag bunch of hobbits and gnomes (awesome group of guys) and was able to learn an incredible amount on shooting proficiently. It was worth more than every penny it cost and will be a lifetime memory with a new skill set that I will be able to pass down to my kids, Playing HORSE with Form was way too much fun, especially shooting from the giant juniper bush!
I should be telling everyone it was a terrible time and a waste of money so there might be an opening for me to go again!
If you can do it!
Ryan
Thanks for the update. I almost booked the last slot this year and hesitated, went back and it was gone. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out in the future.
 
Well… it didn’t take that long after all. I found a lightly used Tikka T3X .223 in stainless steel for $650. I will need to get the barrel cut down and threaded, but the first step in building the .223 RSS is done. The total price will be about the same as buying the already threaded 16” blued steel rifle.


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Well… it didn’t take that long after all. I found a lightly used Tikka T3X .223 in stainless steel for $650. I will need to get the barrel cut down and threaded, but the first step in building the .223 RSS is done. The total price will be about the same as buying the already threaded 16” blued steel rifle.


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Hopefully it’s an 8 twist? Also, for the cut & thread, I highly recommend Karl Feldkamp @ Kampfeld Customs. He’s reasonably priced, and does really great work.
 
Hopefully it’s an 8 twist? Also, for the cut & thread, I highly recommend Karl Feldkamp @ Kampfeld Customs. He’s reasonably priced, and does really great work.

I have heard great things about him, but I would have to ship it to him, which probably costs as much as the job. I am going to have to put it in the hands of a more local smith.


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I have heard great things about him, but I would have to ship it to him, which probably costs as much as the job. I am going to have to put it in the hands of a more local smith.


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Be very careful with local smiths. I don’t know where you’re located, and maybe you have a really good one. I have a local “reputable” shop that managed to mess up a threading job. You would only ship the barreled action to him, and via pirateship.com, that would only cost you around $20 or so.
 
Be very careful with local smiths. I don’t know where you’re located, and maybe you have a really good one. I have a local “reputable” shop that managed to mess up a threading job. You would only ship the barreled action to him, and via pirateship.com, that would only cost you around $20 or so.

I need to check out pirate ship.com… never used it. Thank you!


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Most Sako’s do well. Sauer’s, Blasers, etc all tend to do well. Winchester M70’s (especially older push feeds) have done well. The modern CRF’s can too, but often seem to not be timed for true CRF and have malfunctions.

Howa’s, Browning A bolts, and no R700 patterns have been able to finish a full 5 days. X-bolts seem ok, but none have been tried for the whole week. A Savage Axis was in the last class and other than a couple extraction and mag issues actually did fine. No Ruger American has lasted more than 3 days- one in the last class was an abysmal failure.
Curious what failed on the American. The magazines are not ideal but wondering what other flaws are present
 
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