Shoot2Hunt University

[TimberHunter]

I listened today.
Seemed a pretty fair assessment.

"Form: Likeable a$$hole".
IMPACT!
haha

Form’s favorite word: IMMMMMMPPAAAAACT


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[mt terry d]

Agreed, that was certainly a trigger (pun intended) with Form. He was a good sport about it though!

Did anyone dare say the "F" word more than once?
flyer

 

[philcox]

Did anyone dare say the "F" word more than once?
flyer

I don’t think I heard that one throughout the class. I’m sure somebody uttered it once or twice, and was likely immediately ridiculed.

 

[Nine Banger]

I don’t think I heard that one throughout the class. I’m sure somebody uttered it once or twice, and was likely immediately ridiculed.

My tape use was definitely being monitored but I don't recall a quota on F-bombs.

 

[philcox]

My tape use was definitely being monitored but I don't recall a quota on F-bombs.

I think he mean “F”lyer … F bombs were not countable … especially when magazines failed to feed

 

[TimberHunter]

My tape use was definitely being monitored but I don't recall a quota on F-bombs.

We heard about a dude that “used 9” of tape to cover a few holes” lol


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[Q_Sertorius]

I’m signed up for the course for next June. My current practice rifle is an 8# CZ 527 in 6.5mm Grendel with Scythe. I carry it with me whenever I am on the farm and one like it was my primary deer rifle last year. My current goal is to fire 100 rounds/month with it. I haven’t had a super extended practice session with it yet, but I can’t see it being too punishing to shoot for 100-200 rounds in a day. I’ve just purchased another pile of practice ammo for it. I don’t mind buying a 1000 rounds of 6.5mm Grendel for the course. My other rifle(s) will be a RSS in 6.5 CM and maybe my .25-06.

I have no opposition to .223 and I love Tikkas, but it is not legal for deer in Virginia, so I really don’t want to get one just for S2H. I’d rather spend the money on a better optic for the CZ. I also don’t see the point in renting a practice rifle from S2H. Getting an intensive course of instruction in a rifle I just can’t use for my primary hunting activity doesn’t make sense to me.

Those of you who have been to the course: am I setting myself up for failure by planning to use my CZ?


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[Braaap]

I’m signed up for the course for next June. My current practice rifle is an 8# CZ 527 in 6.5mm Grendel with Scythe. I carry it with me whenever I am on the farm and one like it was my primary deer rifle last year. My current goal is to fire 100 rounds/month with it. I haven’t had a super extended practice session with it yet, but I can’t see it being too punishing to shoot for 100-200 rounds in a day. I’ve just purchased another pile of practice ammo for it. I don’t mind buying a 1000 rounds of 6.5mm Grendel for the course. My other rifle(s) will be a RSS in 6.5 CM and maybe my .25-06.

I have no opposition to .223 and I love Tikkas, but it is not legal for deer in Virginia, so I really don’t want to get one just for S2H. I’d rather spend the money on a better optic for the CZ. I also don’t see the point in renting a practice rifle from S2H. Getting an intensive course of instruction in a rifle I just can’t use for my primary hunting activity doesn’t make sense to me.

Those of you who have been to the course: am I setting myself up for failure by planning to use my CZ?


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Yes. You should rent a 223 at a minimum. Even if you could handle shooting 1,000 rounds of your Grendel I think there is a lot of benefit to shooting the 223. Personally I think it would be worth buying a 223 even if you can’t hunt with it and simply using it to practice with. Just my opinion.

 

[Wprinkle]

I’m signed up for the course for next June. My current practice rifle is an 8# CZ 527 in 6.5mm Grendel with Scythe. I carry it with me whenever I am on the farm and one like it was my primary deer rifle last year. My current goal is to fire 100 rounds/month with it. I haven’t had a super extended practice session with it yet, but I can’t see it being too punishing to shoot for 100-200 rounds in a day. I’ve just purchased another pile of practice ammo for it. I don’t mind buying a 1000 rounds of 6.5mm Grendel for the course. My other rifle(s) will be a RSS in 6.5 CM and maybe my .25-06.

I have no opposition to .223 and I love Tikkas, but it is not legal for deer in Virginia, so I really don’t want to get one just for S2H. I’d rather spend the money on a better optic for the CZ. I also don’t see the point in renting a practice rifle from S2H. Getting an intensive course of instruction in a rifle I just can’t use for my primary hunting activity doesn’t make sense to me.

Those of you who have been to the course: am I setting myself up for failure by planning to use my CZ?


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I agree with @Braaap, get a 223 if all you do is practice with it.. The advantage of having that as your training rifle is unexplainable. And I wouldn't spend a ton of money on optics until you have 1. read the scope drop test list, and 2 been to the class and get to see that a $400 SWFA is plenty for shooting rocks at 1400, and passes the drop test..... IMO

 

[philcox]

I’m signed up for the course for next June. My current practice rifle is an 8# CZ 527 in 6.5mm Grendel with Scythe. I carry it with me whenever I am on the farm and one like it was my primary deer rifle last year. My current goal is to fire 100 rounds/month with it. I haven’t had a super extended practice session with it yet, but I can’t see it being too punishing to shoot for 100-200 rounds in a day. I’ve just purchased another pile of practice ammo for it. I don’t mind buying a 1000 rounds of 6.5mm Grendel for the course. My other rifle(s) will be a RSS in 6.5 CM and maybe my .25-06.

I have no opposition to .223 and I love Tikkas, but it is not legal for deer in Virginia, so I really don’t want to get one just for S2H. I’d rather spend the money on a better optic for the CZ. I also don’t see the point in renting a practice rifle from S2H. Getting an intensive course of instruction in a rifle I just can’t use for my primary hunting activity doesn’t make sense to me.

Those of you who have been to the course: am I setting myself up for failure by planning to use my CZ?


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Just rent a 223, and ship a 1000 round box of ammo to the class

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I agree with @Braaap, get a 223 if all you do is practice with it.. The advantage of having that as your training rifle is unexplainable. And I would spend a ton of money on optics until you have 1. read the scope drop test list, and 2 been to the class and get to see that a $400 SWFA is plenty for shooting rocks at 1400, and passes the drop test..... IMO

You don’t have to convince me on SWFA scopes. I love them already.


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[Sasha_Ivanic]

I’m signed up for the course for next June. My current practice rifle is an 8# CZ 527 in 6.5mm Grendel with Scythe. I carry it with me whenever I am on the farm and one like it was my primary deer rifle last year. My current goal is to fire 100 rounds/month with it. I haven’t had a super extended practice session with it yet, but I can’t see it being too punishing to shoot for 100-200 rounds in a day. I’ve just purchased another pile of practice ammo for it. I don’t mind buying a 1000 rounds of 6.5mm Grendel for the course. My other rifle(s) will be a RSS in 6.5 CM and maybe my .25-06.

I have no opposition to .223 and I love Tikkas, but it is not legal for deer in Virginia, so I really don’t want to get one just for S2H. I’d rather spend the money on a better optic for the CZ. I also don’t see the point in renting a practice rifle from S2H. Getting an intensive course of instruction in a rifle I just can’t use for my primary hunting activity doesn’t make sense to me.

Those of you who have been to the course: am I setting myself up for failure by planning to use my CZ?


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“Keep on keepin’ on…”

I just finished the course and used a 6 ARC Tikka for much of it. I think it's a great option if you need a larger caliber for hunting but still want something you can train with comfortably.

I also used a .223 rental for a couple of days. I got more out of the course with the .223 due to the lower recoil, though the difference wasn’t huge.

 

[wind gypsy]

What is the big benefit of 223 vs a grendel other than cost?

Edit: saw above post about 6 arc and recoil.

I've never shot close to 1000 rounds in 4 days so it's hard to calibrate just how much recoil would wear on a guy. You can definitely get a bit lazy behind a 223 though and still spot shots where I could see a grendel needing more focus to manage recoil.

 

[Wprinkle]

You don’t have to convince me on SWFA scopes. I love them already.


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One of the biggest takeaways I got from the class that was not taught but proved by observation is the Rokslide/S2H "system" really works. Example, You can have +- $1600 in a weapons system that you can rely on and never have to F with, you can use $40 trekking poles to do everything from hike to shoot, you don't need the latest greatest whiz bang expensive gear to be on demand at 600. Invest in the rifle system, a good pack, and buy the best range finding binos you can. Buy ammo, training and tags!! I have completely changed my mindset after the class. I have so overcomplicated EVERYTHING that I couldn't focus on anything. I'm going the Thoreau route of keep it simple simple simple where all I have to worry about is killing shit.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Yes. You should rent a 223 at a minimum. Even if you could handle shooting 1,000 rounds of your Grendel I think there is a lot of benefit to shooting the 223. Personally I think it would be worth buying a 223 even if you can’t hunt with it and simply using it to practice with. Just my opinion.

Or scratch out “223” from the barrel and scratch in 224x6.5 like I do with my 22 Creeds

What is the big benefit of 223 vs a grendel other than cost?

Edit: saw above post about 6 arc and recoil.

I've never shot close to 1000 rounds in 4 days so it's hard to calibrate just how much recoil would wear on a guy. You can definitely get a bit lazy behind a 223 though and still spot shots where I could see a grendel needing more focus to manage recoil.

I shot 100 223 rounds this morning. Even going from 22 Creed or 243 with low recoil, and then shooting the 223, the amount you can “get away with” while maintaining “accuracy” and spotting shots with a short barrel suppressed 223 is honestly just stupid. Even in a 8.5 lb all in “hunting gun”.


First 3 shots of the day



Then a rapid fire “group” of 7 to finish out the mag.





Followed by Chonoing 25 rounds to see speed discrepancy with factory barrel and factory ammo and supressor so hot it was melting the cover inside material. Mirage so bad I could barely see the target but shot anyway. Spoiler alert, with Tikka barrel it doesn’t matter, current Revic Profile has 2740 set in it, chrono showing 2737 average.





Then moved to some longer range shooting and killing on the way out.

 

[Nine Banger]

I think he mean “F”lyer … F bombs were not countable … especially when magazines failed to feed

Oh...

I had a flyer or two in almost every group on day one and 2 but they went away on day 3.

I'm nearly certain it was the humidity.

 

[Braaap]

What is the big benefit of 223 vs a grendel other than cost?

Edit: saw above post about 6 arc and recoil.

I've never shot close to 1000 rounds in 4 days so it's hard to calibrate just how much recoil would wear on a guy. You can definitely get a bit lazy behind a 223 though and still spot shots where I could see a grendel needing more focus to manage recoil.

There’s more to it than just being able to tolerate the recoil for 1000 rounds. I think the low recoil of the 223 makes for a better learning environment when it comes to all of the positions outside of prone. I’ve heard Form say this and I believe it, most people shoot low recoiling guns more accurately. Shooting the 223 allows you to see what you’re capable of when you remove recoil from the equation. I think a lot of people have a flinch and don’t know it. Hopefully this makes sense but maybe not. The 223 is greater than the sum of its parts.

 

[Ryan Avery]

There’s more to it than just being able to tolerate the recoil for 1000 rounds. I think the low recoil of the 223 makes for a better learning environment when it comes to all of the positions outside of prone. I’ve heard Form say this and I believe it, most people shoot low recoiling guns more accurately. Shooting the 223 allows you to see what you’re capable of when you remove recoil from the equation. I think a lot of people have a flinch and don’t know it. Hopefully this makes sense but maybe not. The 223 is greater than the sum of its parts.

Everyone shoots better will less recoil.

 

[Gstew1930]

Oh...

I had a flyer or two in almost every group on day one and 2 but they went away on day 3.

I'm nearly certain it was the humidity.

Shooter #1 in our class was letting the F bombs fly

 

[philcox]

Oh...

I had a flyer or two in almost every group on day one and 2 but they went away on day 3.

I'm nearly certain it was the humidity.

All my fliers were because @Wprinkle was distracting me ...