Shoot2Hunt University

[Q_Sertorius]

Just signed up for the 6/1-5 class next year. Will be flying so would be great to carpool with someone from Bozeman or Billings.

I’m also signed up for the course. We can chat offline and figure things out.


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“Keep on keepin’ on…”

 

[Scottyboy]

I also have a bunch of AAC 77 grain SMK and TMK that I am going to burn through. Wasn’t impressed with the groups before but figured it was practice ammo. Seeing some of those groups I know it’s likely better to buy the ADI instead

Also- got the golden ticket to the course in 26. Looking forward to it. Do guys usually bring out their primary rifles too to get good groups and data, and just burn the 223s?

Sir, I’m sorry but US mixed up our suppressor shipments, and yours was suppose to go to my SOT. I’m sure they will be in touch, in the meantime go ahead and send me my golden ticket…. Congrats dude!!! But seriously, mail me my f’ing ticket

 

[philcox]

... And if you end up sleeping in the hanger, ide bring a bag of pre ground coffee, and a French press(coffee pot was broke). Unless your willing to to wait for form to crawl out of bed before your first cup.

Or wait for the resident Cowboy Coffee chef to wake up and get it going ...

 

[Formidilosus]

How did they fail in the first 20 rounds? are you doing anything to test reliability of the system right away at the beginning?

Malfunctions. Failure to feed, failure to eject, trigger failures. Today a Trigger tech went down hard- 100% dead trigger from rain and some sand being blown into it. An ARC coups de grace is suffering from light strikes about once every 7-8 rounds- those rounds fired fine out of multiple Tikkas, and it has a failure to feed every couple of mags.





All the Tikkas around it functioned correctly- loaded with sand, some had gritty cycling bolts- but all fed, fired, and functioned correctly.







Note: the issues with the R700’s are separate from bad mags. Their certainly are a bunch of those too, but I won’t blame a rifle for bad mags.

I only have one m700 pattern rifle left and its a range/match queen so limited concern but it just seems like you guys have an insanely high failure rate.

I don’t think it’s insane at all- go to any range or watch people and they have failures to feed regularly- people have to massage the bolt and rounds to get them to work. As well, people just don’t shoot in any weather but perfect bluebird days.

The beginning is just a couple days of last week during class, then today, then the dead Trigher Tech-

 

[omicron1792]

Malfunctions. Failure to feed, failure to eject, trigger failures. Today a Trigger tech went down hard- 100% dead trigger from rain and some sand being blown into it. An ARC coups de grace is suffering from light strikes about once every 7-8 rounds- those rounds fired fine out of multiple Tikkas, and it has a failure to feed every couple of mags.

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All the Tikkas around it functioned correctly- loaded with sand, some had gritty cycling bolts- but all fed, fired, and functioned correctly.


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Note: the issues with the R700’s are separate from bad mags. Their certainly are a bunch of those too, but I won’t blame a rifle for bad mags.




I don’t think it’s insane at all- go to any range or watch people and they have failures to feed regularly- people have to massage the bolt and rounds to get them to work. As well, people just don’t shoot in any weather but perfect bluebird days.

The beginning is just a couple days of last week during class, then today, then the dead Trigher Tech-

@Formidilosus y’all ever had a Blaser r8 at class?

 

[wind gypsy]

Note: the issues with the R700’s are separate from bad mags. Their certainly are a bunch of those too, but I won’t blame a rifle for bad mags.

I was thinking not necessarily bad mags but mags that either need some tweaking of the feed lips or mag catch to function properly with the given action/bottom metal. I'm sure there are some actions struggle but I assumed that the majority are just mags or mag catches that are not setup to work well together. My Lone Peak in a Chassis has run without a single hiccup i can recall with any binderless AI mag without tweaking anything. For some reason the one AI mag with binder plate is a little more finicky, so I just dont use that mag.

Not at all surprised about triggers going dead with some adverse weather or heating/cooling as ive seen it with Timneys and I've felt my TT diamond get a hair gummy feeling compared to normal. On a related front, i've had a tikka trigger end up dead on me a couple times this spring in the middle of matches. I'm writing it off as being an aftermarket spring issue as it hasn't done it again since I replaced the spring.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus y’all ever had a Blaser r8 at class?

No sir.

 

[Formidilosus]

On a related front, i've had a tikka trigger end up dead on me a couple times this spring in the middle of matches. I'm writing it off as being an aftermarket spring issue as it hasn't done it again since I replaced the spring.

Oh yeah- replaced trigger springs in Tikka’s is problem. I believe every trigger that has had a replaced/lighter spring has failed at the classes. Factory triggers and springs work without issue.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Oh yeah- replaced trigger springs in Tikka’s is problem. I believe every trigger that has had a replaced/lighter spring has failed at the classes. Factory triggers and springs work without issue.

Have you guys had any Tikka KRG Midas triggers in the class? Thoughts if you did?

 

[Gstew1930]

Have you guys had any Tikka KRG Midas triggers in the class? Thoughts if you did?

it works bad ass if you tighten down the trigger screw lol

 

[Formidilosus]

Have you guys had any Tikka KRG Midas triggers in the class? Thoughts if you did?

A couple. They worked well. As long as they’re tight…. Grin

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

So like Trans tight. Ie. Installed with big manly hands and topped off with a slathering of Sinful Colors. Got it.

 

[WhoGarrDen]

Being that it’s been a while and I did the rifle above, I grabbed the rest of the S2H class 223’s and my original T3 and shot a single 10 round group with each. I left the zero where it was for the last class for all. The left 3 all have 8,000 plus rounds through them, the far right is well over 25,000 rounds on its original barrel. None have been cleaned, all have been shot suppressed since day 1 save the far right and it has been suppressed since about 14,000 rounds.

Are the 3 on the left all blued actions? I'm debating sending my blued T3 action in for black nitride. I know your previous posts on the black nitride sing it's praises, but I'm curious how the blued ones are holding up after all the abuse.

 

[Formidilosus]

Are the 3 on the left all blued actions? I'm debating sending my blued T3 action in for black nitride. I know your previous posts on the black nitride sing it's praises, but I'm curious how the blued ones are holding up after all the abuse.

They are blued. So far fine. I do have one that stayed outside for the last 3 weeks with no maintenance, and it has surface rust.

 

[philcox]

Anyone use the Hornady Aeromatch? Looking at them as a possible alternative to the SMK, but curious as to others experience.

 

[Lawnboi]

Anyone use the Hornady Aeromatch? Looking at them as a possible alternative to the SMK, but curious as to others experience.

The 6mm 105s are good bullets. Comparable to Berger. Havnt shot them at a range where bc consistency matters but they by eye and measuring are the same as my 105 hybrids.

Can’t speak to the 22 cal versions but I’d give them a go if I needed 77smk

 

[wind gypsy]

Anyone use the Hornady Aeromatch? Looking at them as a possible alternative to the SMK, but curious as to others experience.

Do you have a deal on them? 73 or 75 ELDm is typically available cheaper than aeromatch, will have a better BC, and be better on game/varmints.

If going factory mag length in a tikka, 73 ELD would probably be my first try.

 

[philcox]

Do you have a deal on them? 73 or 75 ELDm is typically available cheaper than aeromatch, will have a better BC, and be better on game/varmints.

If going factory mag length in a tikka, 73 ELD would probably be my first try.

Sportsmans has 500ct of the 69 for $130 and 77 for $152. The 75 ELD-M are $165 for 500.

 

[wind gypsy]

Sportsmans has 500ct of the 69 for $130 and 77 for $152. The 75 ELD-M are $165 for 500.

I see, i forget how hard it is (or isn't?) to get components shipped from internet sales in CA so I could see the constraint if its harder to take advantage of online sales.

Hornady .224

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Hornady .224

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[philcox]

I see, i forget how hard it is (or isn't?) to get components shipped from internet sales in CA so I could see the constraint if its harder to take advantage of online sales.

Hornady .224

In-stock best prices for Hornady .224

ammoseek.com

Hornady .224

In-stock best prices for Hornady .224

ammoseek.com

Got PSA to tell me "At this time PSA is not shipping CA ammo to Type 03 FFL's or COE's until further notice pending a legal review." ... looks like the folks in Sacramento are well down their path to remove the ability of law abiding citizens to get ammo. I hope at some point all my kids (and grand kids) pull their heads out and agree to move out of this state. Until then ... I'll use other means of getting my ammo