Shed Hunting: Where’s the beef and what’s the best way to manage it?

[Ucsdryder]

Oregon must also have weak enforcement on grazing.
Because they terrorize the landscape imo

Can we ban wild horses too?

 

[BRTreedogs]

Can we ban wild horses too?

Yes full automatic weapon fire from helicopter.

Honestly lots of people would eat them.
G&F could make money on tags.

 

[realunlucky]

Can we ban wild horses too?

^^^ this is a compounding issue that's based solely on social pressure to do nothing, with zero intellectual investment on the issue from those picking that side.

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[Ucsdryder]

Yes full automatic weapon fire from helicopter.

Honestly lots of people would eat them.
G&F could make money on tags.

Could not agree more. Put a season on them, require meat to be used. No different than other game animals.

 

[BRTreedogs]

A couple years ago I asked if chasing deer with a helicopter into nets, wrestling them to the ground etc doesn't kill them.
Then how tf does a causal bump kill them?
I was told bios know what there doing.
And its worth it to gather the info.

 

[Ucsdryder]

^^^ this is a compounding issue that's based solely on social pressure to do nothing, with zero intellectual investment on the issue from those picking that side.

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Yep, people have a nonsensical infatuation with horses…reminds me of wolves.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Man ohh man.
If horses had shed antlers.

 

[Ucsdryder]

And while we’re complaining, eff me, 50 dollar charge from cpw!!!! Urgh!!!!

 

[Huntinaz]

So you’d have no issue with them banning the commercial sale? Go pick them up, just don’t sell them. What’s the beef?

No, which part made it seem like I would be okay with banning commercial sales? I think the industry is beneficial to the economy

 

[Ucsdryder]

No, which part made it seem like I would be okay with banning commercial sales? I think the industry is beneficial to the economy

Just seemed like your whole argument was against banning being out in the field. I don’t see any positive in the commercialization of public resources. What’s the argument FOR allowing sheds to be commercially sold, and don’t tell me it helps the economy.

There are plenty of studies out there showing that the increased pressure leads to the death of wild animals, so I’d argue that, while not on the same level, it’s not entirely different than hunting animals and selling game meat commercially.

I think a lot of the issues we’re having would be mitigated if people couldn’t sell antlers and I’ve yet to see an argument that makes sense to allow commercial sales of a public resource.

 

[Mule3006Elk]

Negligent and/or intentionally dumb humans = new regulations for responsible and intelligent outdoorsman. Unfortunately, nothing new. This principle applies to this entire thread.

No different than trails. Some want to regulate trails or close them down b/c negligent and/or intentionally dumb humans think it's important to hike and bike and wet muddy trails resulting in deep ruts and damage that are extremely difficult to repair especially when the trail dries out. Not to mention lack of resources to repair the trails. Of course, this results in humans proposing regulations to manage said trail systems to account for negligent and/or intentionally dumb humans.

I've gone a few times shed hunting. Only found a few BUT I called Fish/Game to discuss when I should go. I didn't want to stress wintering animals. I called b/c I had never gone shed hunting before and in my state there are no regulations. I had a good discussion with the biologist who recommended no earlier than mid April. Easy enough.

As others have stated, if you take the money out the shed hunting game that will solve a lot, not all, of the issues.

 

[Huntinaz]

Just seemed like your whole argument was against banning being out in the field. I don’t see any positive in the commercialization of public resources. What’s the argument FOR allowing sheds to be commercially sold, and don’t tell me it helps the economy.

There are plenty of studies out there showing that the increased pressure leads to the death of wild animals, so I’d argue that, while not on the same level, it’s not entirely different than hunting animals and selling game meat commercially.

I think a lot of the issues we’re having would be mitigated if people couldn’t sell antlers and I’ve yet to see an argument that makes sense to allow commercial sales of a public resource.

I don’t understand the comparison of game meat to dropped antlers. I’d argue it IS entirely different

Regarding the last paragraph, I think the banning of sales doesn’t target the problem which is pressure that actually impacts the herd, and can be mitigated in better ways

 

[CorbLand]

Just seemed like your whole argument was against banning being out in the field. I don’t see any positive in the commercialization of public resources. What’s the argument FOR allowing sheds to be commercially sold, and don’t tell me it helps the economy.

There are plenty of studies out there showing that the increased pressure leads to the death of wild animals, so I’d argue that, while not on the same level, it’s not entirely different than hunting animals and selling game meat commercially.

I think a lot of the issues we’re having would be mitigated if people couldn’t sell antlers and I’ve yet to see an argument that makes sense to allow commercial sales of a public resource.

Every other commercial use of a public resource requires a permit and/or fees.

 

[CorbLand]

I don’t understand the comparison of game meat to dropped antlers. I’d argue it IS entirely different

Regarding the last paragraph, I think the banning of sales doesn’t target the problem which is pressure that actually impacts the herd, and can be mitigated in better ways

How is the meat any different than a shed?

What are these better ways?

 

[Ucsdryder]

I don’t understand the comparison of game meat to dropped antlers. I’d argue it IS entirely different

Regarding the last paragraph, I think the banning of sales doesn’t target the problem which is pressure that actually impacts the herd, and can be mitigated in better ways

It’s not entirely different if shed hunting leads to the death of animals, which studies have proved to be true.

In Colorado, people aren’t following the may 1 rule, the allure of 1000s of dollars worth of sheds, is too much for many people and they’re willing to break the law. A ban on the sale would dry up buyers, which would dry up sellers, which would make guys much less likely to break the law.

 

[BRTreedogs]

The harassment of animals is already illegal.
Why not start there? Ohh its really hard to enforce?
Can there be a more Karen/liberal argument then.
"Something has to be done"
Let's make more laws that effect the law abiding,
Ohh the outlaws don't care. We only care about controlling the maximum amount of people possible.
Outlaws can't be controlled anywho..

I'm already buying a hunting license in every western state.

 

[Ucsdryder]

The harassment of animals is already illegal.
Why not start there? Ohh its really hard to enforce?
Can there be a more Karen/liberal argument then.
"Something has to be done"
Let's make more laws that effect the law abiding,
Ohh the outlaws don't care. We only care about controlling the maximum amount of people possible.
Outlaws can't be controlled anywho..

I'm already buying a hunting license in every western state.

You do realize the VAST majority of laws are made due to the “outlaws”. Stealing, murder, tax evasion, etc.

If shed buying and selling was outlawed and it became black market, the very very vast majority of people wouldn’t do it. So yes, it would be successful, and yes it is sad that’s the way society works.

 

[BRTreedogs]

You do realize the VAST majority of laws are made due to the “outlaws”. Stealing, murder, tax evasion, etc.

If shed buying and selling was outlawed and it became black market, the very very vast majority of people wouldn’t do it. So yes, it would be successful, and yes it is sad that’s the way society works.

Nah dude.
I can litterly buy anything I want on the black market.
It may take me a little digging. And if anything it drives the cost up.

But I can litterly have any type of Dope,weapons, people I want to buy.

 

[CorbLand]

Nah dude.
I can litterly buy anything I want on the black market.
It may take me a little digging. And if anything it drives the cost up.

But I can litterly have any type of Dope,weapons, people I want to buy.

But you dont...which is Uc's point.

I can break any law that exists, there is literally nothing stopping me but I dont, because I dont want to face the consequences.

 

[BRTreedogs]

But you dont...which is Uc's point.

I can break any law that exists, there is literally nothing stopping me but I dont, because I dont want to face the consequences.

Im just not into drugs, and haven't needed to have someone murdered yet, and full auto just isn't that cool.
But brown shed antlers on the other hand.