Seekins HAVAK PH3

[Vector32]

I am thinking of picking up a Seekins Havak PH6 in a 6mm Creedmoor. Does anyone have any experience with these? Also, has anyone done the barrel swap?

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[Dbevans]

I am thinking of picking up a Seekins Havak PH6 in a 6mm Creedmoor. Does anyone have any experience with these? Also, has anyone done the barrel swap?

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I have a ph3 7prc. It’s a great rifle if you don’t mind a little extra weight. Its definitely noticeably heavier than my tikkas and brownings


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[kurtiss00]

I just picked one up, 20 inch barrel. Kitchen scale says 7 lbs 10.8 oz bare

 

[TheViking]

I have a PH3 6 CM 20" barrel. Shoots lights out, big upgrade over the PH2 version.

I have not done a barrel swap, but I did take the barrel off to clean it. Super easy. You do have to take the stock off (no big deal), then there's a set screw you undo and then you can hand loosen the barrel off. Reverse it to put it back on.

I have two complaints about this -
First off, Seekins doesn't have shit for spare parts yet. (bolt heads, barrels, etc) You can get aftermarket barrels made though, but they are a few hundred dollars more.
Secondly, I had a CB brake that was stuck on my barrel and I cranked on it and the whole barrel loosened. That was annoying, and I don't love that. I don't think it's an 'issue' because there's no situations in the field where you'd be cranking on your barrel like that, but it defintely caught me off guard.

Overall I do really like the PH3s, and my 6 CM absolutely stacks factory ELDMs in tight groups.

 

[mthayr]

Not a Havak, but I have the Element Hunter in 6CM (PH3 action) and as others have attested, it a tack driver. No complaints, other than they're too popular, and thus I can't get a .223 bolt head or .277 FURY barrel...

 

[Vector32]

I just picked one up, 20 inch barrel. Kitchen scale says 7 lbs 10.8 oz bare

Are you shooting it with a suppressor? What kind is speeds are you getting?

 

[kurtiss00]

Are you shooting it with a suppressor? What kind is speeds are you getting?

Down the road I intend on getting a suppressor, haven't shot it, need to pick up a scope.

 

[mthayr]

Are you shooting it with a suppressor? What kind is speeds are you getting?

Brake (I need to move), 2811 FPS with factory ELD-M, though its still under 50 rounds, so I may get a bit more.

 

[Timplant]

I just received my PH3 BACK from seekins last week, since it wouldn't shoot under 4'' groups.... needless to say it is now back to not shoooting groups again... I ordered a tikka and parts lastnight...... sorry.

 

[TheViking]

Brake (I need to move), 2811 FPS with factory ELD-M, though it’s still under 50 rounds, so I may get a bit more.

Speeds will vary per lot of ammo as well. I have one lot that was getting 2870 from and another I am vesting 2795-2800 from. Hornady pisses me off with this.

 

[Toyotabanshee1]

I will be picking mine up tomorrow after work and plan on taking the factory brake off and putting my suppressor on and getting it dialed in this weekend.

 

[handwerk]

does seekins test fire these rifles before they get shipped?

 

[Toyotabanshee1]

does seekins test fire these rifles before they get shipped?

from my understanding they do, but i am not 100% positive on that.

 

[mthayr]

Yes, and they include the spent casing with your rifle.

 

[TheViking]

Yes, and they include the spent casing with your rifle.

Never got a spent casing with mine. And I have a few.
Glen was on a podcast I listened to and they don’t test every single one, that would take too much time. They pull 1 in every 5 or 3, I forget exactly and test it. They’ll stop production if they find one out of spec and get it squared away.

 

[mthayr]

Never got a spent casing with mine. And I have a few.
Glen was on a podcast I listened to and they don’t test every single one, that would take too much time. They pull 1 in every 5 or 3, I forget exactly and test it. They’ll stop production if they find one out of spec and get it squared away.

Lucky me!

 

[coachmks]

I have a PH2 in 300 Win Mag an an Element 3 in 6.5 PRC. I’m regretting purchasing Seekins guns. Their great customer service is an urban legend. I have called multiple times since November. I’ve never had a person answer the phone. I’ve never had anyone call me back. I finally got someone to respond to an email. Now I can’t get an email response. The 6.5 PRC mag only goes in if I slam on it with my fist. They don’t have any extra magazines to send me and there are none for sale. For almost a year now, they have advertised the barrel swap capability, but after almost a year, none of the parts are available to make the barrel swap possible. I’m close to just selling mine and moving on to a new brand.

 

[TheCoyote]

Bummer I was interested in buying a PH3 and swapping between .22 creedmoor and 6.5 PRC. I’m hesitant because im concerned about feeding issues and also curious about overall accuracy. Some guys say their ph3s are shooting 1/2 moa but I’m not positive. Sounds like Seekins customer service is intermittent.

 

[cdre311]

I have a PH3 in 300 Win Mag with the 22 inch barrel. I have about 150 rounds through it. It will shoot 1/2 MOA with the Hornady ELD-X 200 gr, which is what Seekins suggests you run through the gun (that and ELD-M). I shot it out to 300 yards this past weekend and had consistent 1/2 MOA groups with that ammo. However, I haven't found another factory hunting round that groups as well as the ELD-X, and some ammo is just flat out terrible. The Barnes SGK 190 gr runs about MOA for me. I have a few more I'm going to shoot, but I just bought a bunch of that lot of ELD-X. That said, I have to echo what coachmks said above re: the customer service. When I first got the rifle I was having some issues getting it to group (was a combo of the suppressor not seating properly and the ammo). Customer service always responded within 24 hours, and offered to take it back to give it a look, but they strongly suggested I shouldn't send it back. I called once and left a VM but never got a call back. I also asked them a number of questions that I just never got an answer to; in particular, I asked what other factory rounds run well, beyond the ELD-X and M. I think I asked that question 3 or 4 times and they just kept replying with ELD-X and ELD-M. I'm not a reloader, but heard this gun really shines with a good hand load. Overall, it's the best shooting gun I own with that one ammo. And truthfully, with my last hunting rifle, I only shot one round out of that. At one point I looked at going full custom and the builder said they would only guarantee accuracy with their custom (expensive) handloads, so to me having to just shoot the ELD-X isn't so bad. Picture attached is a 5 shot group at 100 yards with a Dead Air Nomad.

 

[fullpenetration]

I just received my PH3 BACK from seekins last week, since it wouldn't shoot under 4'' groups.... needless to say it is now back to not shoooting groups again... I ordered a tikka and parts lastnight...... sorry.

Same thing happened with me. 4" groups, they fixed it, I got it back and went right back to shooting 4" groups. I can shoot pretty good. They replaced it with a new rifle so we will see.