Seek Outside Cimarron

[camping1601]

Have you looked at the Redcliffe? I went through this and ended up ordering the Redcliffe.

 

[5MilesBack]

It is hard to know exactly how things will work without being able to see these in person. On paper, the Cimarron seems like it will work, but I have learned that there is typically a big difference between claimed space and useable space.

I'll just put it this way.........I'm 6'6" and I bought the Cimarron "off the specs" and there was absolutely no way I could configure that thing to accommodate myself, another person, and a stove.......safely, without staking it 6" off the ground. I could fit myself and another person, but we would have been so close to the pole, that I never would have run a stove in it.

 

[wasatchcomm]

i was set on the redcliff, really like the size, i got a really nice luna 6 off a member here and it is really a nice shelter, gonna give it a go this year.

 

[Slim Jim]

I really like my Cimarron so far. I'm 6' 190# and it's a palace compared to my old GoLite sl3. I use the the 2 man pyranet nest from bearpaw with my set up. It's only a couple oz more than a one man.

 

[wasatchcomm]

Hey slim
Could you out two of those nests in the cimmaron?

 

[colonel00]

You could but it could be tight getting into the nests. If you look at my picture on the previous page, the nest could have been slid towards the "back" of the tent a little but it's still pretty close to the pole. So, imagine if there was a second nest on the opposite side, you will maybe have a foot or a little more in between them to enter the tent and climb into the nests. Not impossible but something to think about.

 

[wasatchcomm]

That's what I was thinking based on your pic
Looks like I will just look at the 3/4 or full nest for the Luna 6 and that will be that

 

[AuthenticHunter]

I have looked at the Redcliff, and I like the Redcliff. I was simply hoping the Cimarron would work and I could save a pound or so. I guess I am back to the Redcliff, 4 person tipi, Sawtooth, or another larger shelter.

 

[HuntBucks]

I have looked at the Redcliff, and I like the Redcliff. I was simply hoping the Cimarron would work and I could save a pound or so. I guess I am back to the Redcliff, 4 person tipi, Sawtooth, or another larger shelter.

I received an email from Seek outside for a sale on factory seconds, I picked up a 4 man tipi with screens for less than than one without them. One of the guy lines was placed two inches lower than the others. They had a 4 man without screens and a 6 man for sale you may give them a call to see what they still have. My 4 man arrived and it is excellent quality and brand new.

 

[jspradley]

Has anyone ran a cimmaron with 3 people and a stove? I'm really debating picking up one of their tipi and stove combos. 99% of the time it would be for myself and my wife but my brother might tag along with us this year. Im 6', my bro is a little shorter than myself and my wife is about 5'8".. I don't want anyone melting their fart sack on the stove...lol

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[luke moffat]

I think 3 and a stove would be doable but very tight and not much room for gear.

I think a sawtooth modded to not require the rear pole to setup is a much better option if wanting to do 3 plus a stove IMO.

 

[colonel00]

Here is a space representation. I've never actually had the people in mine but this may give you an idea. On the left side is a two person nest and to the right is the stove and a bivy.

Yeah, Sawtooth would be a great option and probably easier for that third person to get in and out.

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[Slim Jim]

Hey slim
Could you out two of those nests in the cimmaron?

Ya but it wouldn't leave room for a stove

 

[AuthenticHunter]

Regarding the size of the Cimarron, Kevin from Seek Outside responded, "I am 6'1 and don't have an issue and would not if I was 6'6 either . I know several people in the 6'4 or 6'5 range have used it and been fine."

 

[5MilesBack]

Regarding the size of the Cimarron, Kevin from Seek Outside responded, "I am 6'1 and don't have an issue and would not if I was 6'6 either . I know several people in the 6'4 or 6'5 range have used it and been fine."

Oh ya, you could survive in it. But I prefer to be comfortable and not elbowing the side walls, and pushing the ends with my head and feet all night. I set the thing up and tried whatever I could and couldn't get away from the center pole without elbowing or shouldering the side walls because of the slant. I look at the dimensions and it looks huge. Then I set it up and wonder how on earth I could ever get two people and a stove in it. I even laid everything out and laid on it and measured each side, and there wasn't enough room for me to be comfortable running a stove in it with two. I have a Copper Spur UL4 that is 80x90 with more vertical walls, and that thing has a ton of room compared to the Cimarron......but also no stove.

 

[AuthenticHunter]

Oh ya, you could survive in it. But I prefer to be comfortable and not elbowing the side walls, and pushing the ends with my head and feet all night. I set the thing up and tried whatever I could and couldn't get away from the center pole without elbowing or shouldering the side walls because of the slant. I look at the dimensions and it looks huge. Then I set it up and wonder how on earth I could ever get two people and a stove in it. I even laid everything out and laid on it and measured each side, and there wasn't enough room for me to be comfortable running a stove in it with two. I have a Copper Spur UL4 that is 80x90 with more vertical walls, and that thing has a ton of room compared to the Cimarron......but also no stove.

Thank you. Do you have experience with any other tipi/shelters? Any recommendations that would accommodate someone of our height?

 

[colonel00]

While I respect the opinion of 5MilesBack, I still disagree with his assessment of the shelter. Hell, I own his old Cimarron. To me, the key is to add some cordage and tensioners to the stake loops and this shelter is huge. I guess, perhaps if he just used the stock stake loops and pitched it down tight, it would be small for taller folks. However, several people have given testimony and I provide pictures showing how much room is in the tent.

If you still don't think you will fit in the Cimarron, I guess the next step is to a Sawtooth or some kind of 6-person tent or tipi. As 5MB mentions, he finds plenty of room in the UL4 but that tent comes in over 5lbs I believe and I don't think you can use a stove with it. A Sawtooth is a bit lighter and can use a stove but will cost a bit more I think.

To me, the biggest thing is to try something out for yourself to see if it works for you. As with many threads on this forum, what works for one person may not work for another. I'd highly suggest posting here or starting a new thread looking for folks in your area that might have gear you want to check out. Other than that, I guess you need to prioritize what is most important in a shelter you are looking for and then work from there to narrow down your choices.

 

[AuthenticHunter]

While I respect the opinion of 5MilesBack, I still disagree with his assessment of the shelter. Hell, I own his old Cimarron. To me, the key is to add some cordage and tensioners to the stake loops and this shelter is huge. I guess, perhaps if he just used the stock stake loops and pitched it down tight, it would be small for taller folks. However, several people have given testimony and I provide pictures showing how much room is in the tent.

If you still don't think you will fit in the Cimarron, I guess the next step is to a Sawtooth or some kind of 6-person tent or tipi. As 5MB mentions, he finds plenty of room in the UL4 but that tent comes in over 5lbs I believe and I don't think you can use a stove with it. A Sawtooth is a bit lighter and can use a stove but will cost a bit more I think.

To me, the biggest thing is to try something out for yourself to see if it works for you. As with many threads on this forum, what works for one person may not work for another. I'd highly suggest posting here or starting a new thread looking for folks in your area that might have gear you want to check out. Other than that, I guess you need to prioritize what is most important in a shelter you are looking for and then work from there to narrow down your choices.

Thank you for the suggestion. I probably spend way too much time researching this stuff, but it is my nature.

 

[colonel00]

Nothing wrong with researching stuff but at some point you have to take that leap and see what works. Where are you located?

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[AuthenticHunter]

Utah. Seek Outside is only four hours away. Maybe it is time for a drive?