Scammer Got Me for 2500$

[Thinkingman]

I mean he’d be pretty damn smart! Post a wtb, say he got scammed, then have someone randomly, for the first time ever on this sight, suggest we help him out (the OP never mentioned it). If he’s that smart he probably earned the extra money!!!

First thing that crossed my mind.
You might say I'm a little cynical at this point in the game.

 

[CorbLand]

First thing that crossed my mind.
You might say I'm a little cynical at this point in the game.

Not going to lie, this crossed my mind as well. There are some grammatical errors in the post that seem a little odd. Some seem awfully close to what something similar to google translate would mix up but I am giving it the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Team4LongGun]

If you gents are going to do something to help this young man out, I would also be in.

Edited, as stated earlier.

 

[isItFallYet]

They would just use a VPN to change their IP.

It would also be really hard to verify if someone is legit. How would you do that?

Ask them what state and unit they hunt in, duh! GPS coordinates!

 

[isItFallYet]

Ask them what state and unit they hunt in, duh! GPS coordinates!

Additionally you can find out who owns the IP. If it belongs to an ISP, they’re probably solid. If it belongs to a company that offers VPN, then it’s suspect. Most of the time IPs for VPNs are static and don’t change.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Ask them what state and unit they hunt in, duh! GPS coordinates!

If he says he’s not sure but not looking for a honey hole and just wants a 300” bull then we’ll know he’s a legit rokslider!

 

[sutton17]

I’m going to throw this out there. At 17 this would have hurt, shit it would hurt now. 2500 is a lot of money regardless of age, but 10 bucks wouldn’t hurt a bit. If a bunch of us throw in 10 bucks maybe we could help him out a little? There’s 50k members, can we get 250 people to participate? Maybe a sponsor would do one at cost if we could raise some $$$$? @robby denning i assume this would be ok?

Sign me up for sending $10

 

[Finch]

I mean he’d be pretty damn smart! Post a wtb, say he got scammed, then have someone randomly, for the first time ever on this sight, suggest we help him out (the OP never mentioned it). If he’s that smart he probably earned the extra money!!!

As soon as I read his post I knew someone would want to do something nice for the kid. Forums like this are predictable in the fact of helping others. Sad that some take advantage of it.

I'm not saying the OP is but it has happened before. I'm down for sending $10 though. I have a hard time losing a lot less money. $2500 would sting for a while!

 

[philos]

I might catch some grief for this but I have browsed through the OPs prior posts. He's sold a few fairly high end optics and seems to doing pretty well for a 17 year old. I am usually a fairly generous guy and try to be open minded but if you are buying and selling high end optics you should know the rules/risks of the game.

If the story is indeed true it is unfortunate but I have to take a stance of this being a life lesson-albeit an expensive one. Anyone using PayPal or similar money transfer funds should be aware of the risks and any deviation from G&S should raise red flags.

Chipping in $10.00 is cool but the reality is some of you may not have the disposable income of the OP. I am not saying generosity should only be offered to poverty stricken but I am hesitant to offer cash to someone that used bad judgment on such a sum of money and has bought and sold optics some middle aged guys can't afford. Rokslide has preached about the inherent risk of PayPal F&F and at some point you have to hold yourself accountable to a degree.

If optics are necessary for this guy-are $2,500.00 + optics really necessary?

In short-I would want to determine the actual need basis here (as much as you can). If we were discussing someone that was looking for a decent pair of mid level binos It might make more sense.

I will say though for so many to offer to send funds is awesome. It makes a really positive statement of Roksliders.

 

[eddielasvegas]

This thread certainly deserves to be watched.


Eddie

 

[Team4LongGun]

I might catch some grief for this but I have browsed through the OPs prior posts. He's sold a few fairly high end optics and seems to doing pretty well for a 17 year old. I am usually a fairly generous guy and try to be open minded but if you are buying and selling high end optics you should know the rules/risks of the game.

If the story is indeed true it is unfortunate but I have to take a stance of this being a life lesson-albeit an expensive one. Anyone using PayPal or similar money transfer funds should be aware of the risks and any deviation from G&S should raise red flags.

Chipping in $10.00 is cool but the reality is some of you may not have the disposable income of the OP. I am not saying generosity should only be offered to poverty stricken but I am hesitant to offer cash to someone that used bad judgment on such a sum of money and has bought and sold optics some middle aged guys can't afford. Rokslide has preached about the inherent risk of PayPal F&F and at some point you have to hold yourself accountable to a degree.

If optics are necessary for this guy-are $2,500.00 + optics really necessary?

In short-I would want to determine the actual need basis here (as much as you can). If we were discussing someone that was looking for a decent pair of mid level binos It might make more sense.

I will say though for so many to offer to send funds is awesome. It makes a really positive statement of Roksliders.

I think your spot on in regards to ANYONE asking for Friends and Family. I’ve said it many times-were not friends, and we’re not family!! It’s an unfortunate reality of the world we live in. The honor system is great but there are dishonest amongst us.

 

[browning2480]

I might catch some grief for this but I have browsed through the OPs prior posts. He's sold a few fairly high end optics and seems to doing pretty well for a 17 year old. I am usually a fairly generous guy and try to be open minded but if you are buying and selling high end optics you should know the rules/risks of the game.

If the story is indeed true it is unfortunate but I have to take a stance of this being a life lesson-albeit an expensive one. Anyone using PayPal or similar money transfer funds should be aware of the risks and any deviation from G&S should raise red flags.

Chipping in $10.00 is cool but the reality is some of you may not have the disposable income of the OP. I am not saying generosity should only be offered to poverty stricken but I am hesitant to offer cash to someone that used bad judgment on such a sum of money and has bought and sold optics some middle aged guys can't afford. Rokslide has preached about the inherent risk of PayPal F&F and at some point you have to hold yourself accountable to a degree.

If optics are necessary for this guy-are $2,500.00 + optics really necessary?

In short-I would want to determine the actual need basis here (as much as you can). If we were discussing someone that was looking for a decent pair of mid level binos It might make more sense.

I will say though for so many to offer to send funds is awesome. It makes a really positive statement of Roksliders.

Sold me. Thanks for the investigation and I completely agree. If he has been selling expensive optics, then I believe he probably just needs to learn a hard lesson. At 17, he must be doing alright. I will hold my donation.

All this while making minimum wage no less. He did poor the sympathy card on pretty hard in his story.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I might catch some grief for this but I have browsed through the OPs prior posts. He's sold a few fairly high end optics and seems to doing pretty well for a 17 year old. I am usually a fairly generous guy and try to be open minded but if you are buying and selling high end optics you should know the rules/risks of the game.

If the story is indeed true it is unfortunate but I have to take a stance of this being a life lesson-albeit an expensive one. Anyone using PayPal or similar money transfer funds should be aware of the risks and any deviation from G&S should raise red flags.

Chipping in $10.00 is cool but the reality is some of you may not have the disposable income of the OP. I am not saying generosity should only be offered to poverty stricken but I am hesitant to offer cash to someone that used bad judgment on such a sum of money and has bought and sold optics some middle aged guys can't afford. Rokslide has preached about the inherent risk of PayPal F&F and at some point you have to hold yourself accountable to a degree.

If optics are necessary for this guy-are $2,500.00 + optics really necessary?

In short-I would want to determine the actual need basis here (as much as you can). If we were discussing someone that was looking for a decent pair of mid level binos It might make more sense.

I will say though for so many to offer to send funds is awesome. It makes a really positive statement of Roksliders.

Maybe I missed it but what are you referring to? I see multiple topics started about buying alpha glass and wtb ads for different alpha glass. I know when I want something I immediately start doing research and being a cheap bastard sometimes I’ll analyze for months until I figure out what I want. Seems like a lot of that going on for the last few months. I didn’t look closely and just skimmed over some topics he started but I see a set of mavens and a Nikon spotting scope. After reading the tone of your post I was expecting see him swapping $1000s in optics around. Lets hold judgement until he responds.

 

[hunt1up]

I might catch some grief for this but I have browsed through the OPs prior posts. He's sold a few fairly high end optics and seems to doing pretty well for a 17 year old. I am usually a fairly generous guy and try to be open minded but if you are buying and selling high end optics you should know the rules/risks of the game.

If the story is indeed true it is unfortunate but I have to take a stance of this being a life lesson-albeit an expensive one. Anyone using PayPal or similar money transfer funds should be aware of the risks and any deviation from G&S should raise red flags.

Chipping in $10.00 is cool but the reality is some of you may not have the disposable income of the OP. I am not saying generosity should only be offered to poverty stricken but I am hesitant to offer cash to someone that used bad judgment on such a sum of money and has bought and sold optics some middle aged guys can't afford. Rokslide has preached about the inherent risk of PayPal F&F and at some point you have to hold yourself accountable to a degree.

If optics are necessary for this guy-are $2,500.00 + optics really necessary?

In short-I would want to determine the actual need basis here (as much as you can). If we were discussing someone that was looking for a decent pair of mid level binos It might make more sense.

I will say though for so many to offer to send funds is awesome. It makes a really positive statement of Roksliders.

I just read through them too. I don’t think you’re wrong in you’re examination. I’ll always give people the benefit of the doubt, and I’m happy to help, but it’s totally reasonable to vet this. If the kid is slinging and buying high end stuff prior to this then that is different. I’m still open to helping but some clarity would help.

 

[HornPorn]

I might catch some grief for this but I have browsed through the OPs prior posts. He's sold a few fairly high end optics and seems to doing pretty well for a 17 year old.

Yeah, his posts and the depicted plight ("Now with no money and no binoculars") do not add up. Says on 2/7/22 that he owns some Leupold BX-4 10x42s....no posts selling those since then, yet a bunch of posts selling other glass (Nikon and Maven).

Also, I don't know any 17 yr olds that would write/type the way he does.......guess I only know a bunch of dumba$$es!

 

[AdamLewis]

I don’t understand how in this day in age there isn’t a clear cut way to track the IP address to a physical residence and give to the authorities. Anyone know what the deal is?

Internet facing IP addresses don't identify individuals, and often not even addresses. Someone posting from a connected to the domain of a multi site company, for example, would resolve to wherever their proxy server was located.

The ISPs most of us connect through don't make their address assignments public. That would be needed to resolve one of their IPs to a person or an address, and this isn't something any of us would want to have happen.

 

[browning2480]

Yeah, his posts and the depicted plight ("Now with no money and no binoculars") do not add up. Says on 2/7/22 that he owns some Leupold BX-4 10x42s....no posts selling those since then, yet a bunch of posts selling other glass (Nikon and Maven).

Also, I don't know any 17 yr olds that would write/type the way he does.......guess I only know a bunch of dumba$$es!

Same. Also seems to have good knowledge with Exo and SG packs. Pretty good experience for a 17 year old. I have raised two and at that age they loved hunting, but not to the knowledge he has.

Again all that working a minimum wage job during the summer.

 

[MuleyFever]

Definitely something to think about but with the history of this scammer and everything that’s happened I’m pretty confident he just got suckered and I’m more confident a decent percentage of WKR could have faced the same fate.

That other thread said scammers ip was in Ukraine so probably a vpn. Now he creates a new account here and says he was ripped off and everyone gives him another $2500.

Anyway, I dont have $10 for everyone that comes on here saying they got ripped off.

 

[NorthIDHunter]

He definitely was not your typical scammer. He tried to get me for $500 for a spotter. Something just felt off so I told him I needed a day to get back to him. Then he got pushy so I started digging more. That’s when I saw he was banned.

@OregonHunter13
I got a pair of Kowa BD ii 10x42 that are a year old, I can send you. Just shoot me a pm.

Hey if you are just giving those Kowa's away I will get in line, lol. I am 37 with 4 kids, a wife, a dog, a mortgage, and now with increase in cost of living across the board, it's possible that I may actually have less money then this kid, even after he lost $2500 to nothing. Hell some could say i have done the same thing with kids sports and activities! LOL.

 

[Ucsdryder]

That other thread said scammers ip was in Ukraine so probably a vpn. Now he creates a new account here and says he was ripped off and everyone gives him another $2500.

Anyway, I dont have $10 for everyone that comes on here saying they got ripped off.

Okay now I’m confused… Are we saying he’s a Ukrainian scammer or are we saying that he’s a rich 17-year-old who doesn’t need the money? Orrrrr… is he a Rich 17-year-old Ukrainian living in Idaho with lots of high-end optics that doesn’t need the money? But still a scammer of course…