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I posted a wtb ad for a badlands coat when contacted by jarn22056. Jarn texted photos of the coat and even supplied pictures I requested with the current date on a note next to the picture. Scammers are getting smarter. First time I've ever been scammed!! Luckily it was only $100. Stay vigilant people.
 

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That sucks. Always do a reverse image search on Google, most scammers use old posts with the item your looking for and steal their pics and wording. It’s saved me more than once.
 
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That sucks. Always do a reverse image search on Google, most scammers use old posts with the item your looking for and steal their pics and wording. It’s saved me more than once.
That's the thing they even unzipped it when taking the second photo i requested. I believe they had the coat just never planned on sending it.
 

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Thanks for notifying everyone - sorry about the loss.
Ive sold quite a bit on here over the years - I never ask for F&F. I eat the G&S fees on the seller side for buyer piece of mind. Just not worth haggling over for a few bucks on a $50 or $100 item/ conversely a $300 item buyers get leary sending F&F and I'd rather take the sale.
 
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Thanks for notifying everyone - sorry about the loss.
Ive sold quite a bit on here over the years - I never ask for F&F. I eat the G&S fees on the seller side for buyer piece of mind. Just not worth haggling over for a few bucks on a $50 or $100 item/ conversely a $300 item buyers get leary sending F&F and I'd rather take the sale.
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That sucks man, isn't G&S only like 3%? Three bucks coulda bought you insurance.
For sure.. I've had so many good experiences dealing with guys on here I probably wasn't as keen as I should have been
 

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Sucks man. I don't do much on here but active on several of the gun forums. I always give the buyer the option to add 3.5% or use F&F.
 

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This happened to me on a post a bit ago. What raised my eye brows was the language “kindly” and the willingness to shave a $100 off the asking price. The biggest tho was the USPS money order.


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Sorry to hear it. The vast majority of the scammers on here prey on the WTB posts. For that reason, I will never post a WTB on any site unless we are able to meet in person.

I have had about 25 positive buy/sell transactions on here and every single one has been good. If you're really feeling leery, just walk away or do something like a FaceTime call with the person to verify that they actually have the item.
 

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If you used a credit card threw paypal, or sometimes even your bank will back you up. File a claim with them asap to get the ball roll, it works.
 

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This recommendation is copied from the Forum Boss at Accurate Shooter. Good advice to follow. Mby something like this should become pinned to the top of every For Sale section here on RS.

VOICE PHONE CALL ALWAYS!!
In the last 5 years I am aware of only one fraud from our Classifieds where the buyer made the VOICE PHONE CALL. But even in that case the call was to a real retail shop employee, so the scam seller was later identified and arrested.

PHONE Tip: If when you call the provided number, you get Google Voice or some other forwarding service, be very, very, very suspicious. Personally if I called and got Google Voice I would forget the transaction.

DEMAND Custom Photos ALWAYS!!
People read this, but they don't seem to get it. Don't just ask for a photo with a piece of paper with the day's date. The scammers will photoshop that instantly. I can't believe that people will ask for a custom photo, and then they get the SAME photo with a photoshopped overlay and they say "Oh, that's OK". Don't be a fool.

When asking for a custom photo, ensure that you require the object to be photographed in a different location, different light, different angle. Require the seller to interact with the sale item (unbox it, put something on it).

Example for a scope sale: Tell the seller to tie a rope or ribbon around the scope, then put the scope on the dashboard of his vehicle for the custom photo. The seller cannot do this if he does not possess the scope. For custom photo always -- Different location, different angle, something extra in photo that physically connects with the object sold.

BEWARE Non Members!!
WTB listings invite scammers. If the person responding is NOT a member of this Forum, be VERY wary. Even if he IS a member, look at the sign-up date. If someone is responding in the first 30 days of membership, that is against our rules. Notify me and I will ban that person permanently.

There are also darn good reasons to only do transactions with paying members with previous Trader History. The purchase of a membership requires requires a valid personal check, active PayPal account, or valid CC account.

NEVER EVER Pay with PayPal Friends & Family!! NEVER!! Got that?!
The defrauded party here paid via PayPal Friends & Family, despite our emphatic, repeated cautions to NEVER EVER do that. You have NO protections, and you are violating PayPal rules. Why do people still do this -- I simply don't get it...

Consider Paying for Background Check Services
You may want to subscribe to Spokeo.com. This service allows you to background check using a name + state, or phone number, or email. If you Spokeo search a phone number or email and there are no findings, be very suspicious.

About Scopes
I recommend that members buy scopes new. Optics are probably the #1 item pushed by scammers (because guns have to go through FFLs). On a $1500.00 optic, don't take the risk of losing all your money to save a couple hundred. Buy new so you are assured the optic is perfect and you also have the best warranty.”
 
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