Savage Trigger Replacement

[Jack321]

My brother bought a used Savage Varmint Model 12 in 22-250 for prairie dogs with an original, non-accutrigger. The factory trigger pull sucks and hes looking for a new trigger to get it down to ~3lbs.

Been watching YouTube videos to try learn if this is something I can do for him, or if he should take it to a smith. I havent yet taken the stock off to see the kind of trigger on the gun yet.

Are drop in triggers available for Model 12s?

Most of the triggers I'm finding are for 110s and Stevens 200s are Model 12 and 110/200 triggers interchangeable?

Some YT videos make it look easy while others make it look complicated to completely remove every spring, sear, pin and trigger assembly to do it.

Last thing I want to do is mess with it and make it unsafe. But if I can find a drop in where I'm pulling one pin and switching it out. It saves $$ on a smith.

 

[Caseknife]

Timney will fit fine. Look at the chart at the bottom of the link. https://timneytriggers.com/savage-110-stevens-200/

 

[Jack321]

Timney will fit fine. Look at the chart at the bottom of the link. https://timneytriggers.com/savage-110-stevens-200/

Any videos of removing the original trigger with the Timney?

I'm finding a bunch with the Rifle Basix trigger. But all the Timney install videos are for the Accutrigger.

So I'm wondering if I will have to piece the videos together and watch the first half of 1 video to see how to remove the factory POS trigger and the 2nd half of another to see how to installing a Timney from an Accutrigger.

The Timney directions, while detailed and I'm sure helpful to some, just dont cut it as seeing video and walk-thrus are 100x better than words without pictures.

 

[Caseknife]

Any videos of removing the original trigger with the Timney?

I'm finding a bunch with the Rifle Basix trigger. But all the Timney install videos are for the Accutrigger.

So I'm wondering if I will have to piece the videos together and watch the first half of 1 video to see how to remove the factory POS trigger and the 2nd half of another to see how to installing a Timney from an Accutrigger.

The Timney directions, while detailed and I'm sure helpful to some, just dont cut it as seeing video and walk-thrus are 100x better than words without pictures.

Sorry can't help you there.

 

[Jack321]

Sorry can't help you there.

So whats the difference between the drop in trigger you sent and something like the Rifle Basix SAV-2?

As I'm watching YouTube videos about this, all the Timney drop in triggers are replacing the Accutrigger. None I can find are replacing an original pre-2003 trigger.

All of those videos that show original trigger replacements are dedicated to the Rifle Basix trigger. Which goes for $175 compared to the $110 Timney.

Another Q I have is can I just remove the original trigger and replace it with the Timney Drop in? Will that make the trigger better? Is that what "drop in" in this case means?

Lastly, if I take this original trigger off, will it "look like" if someone took off an accutrigger? I guess, meaning, if I watch half a video of watching removing the original trigger. Can I watch another half of someone installing the Timney? Because again, all the Timney install videos are replacing Accutriggers. If its the same after stripping the trigger off, I couls just do a timney install after, right?

 

[Caseknife]

Sorry, but triggers are pretty critical on rifles and if you have too many questions, maybe you should find a gunsmith to do it. The trigger manufactures have install videos, I would watch that rather than some random Youtube guy.

 

[flyinsquirel]

Sharp Shooter Supply makes a good one, Rifle Basix is good too. 110 is a long action, 10 & 12 are short action. Same trigger.

 

[Jack321]

Sorry, but triggers are pretty critical on rifles and if you have too many questions, maybe you should find a gunsmith to do it. The trigger manufactures have install videos, I would watch that rather than some random Youtube guy.

100% agree with this. But I also like to gather as much info as I can and if I can, I like to. This is precisely why I dont reload. Just a lot of safety concerns. Safety is by far the most important thing.

 

[nuffgun]

https://www.mcarbo.com/savage-axis-trigger-pro-kit.aspx You can watch the video in this link to see if this trigger spring kit fits that particular trigger. Savage has done a lot of mixing and matching different triggers between models so you might get lucky. I just installed this spring kit on a savage axis rifle and we got nice crisp break at 1.5 lbs with the medium size spring in the kit.

 

[Jack321]

https://www.mcarbo.com/savage-axis-trigger-pro-kit.aspx You can watch the video in this link to see if this trigger spring kit fits that particular trigger. Savage has done a lot of mixing and matching different triggers between models so you might get lucky. I just installed this spring kit on a savage axis rifle and we got nice crisp break at 1.5 lbs with the medium size spring in the kit.

Yeah the trigger on this 110 is much different than the Axis. I just did four axis trigger jobs and three Desh bolt lift kits for a bunch of Axis last week.

So I'm wondering if I can just by the Timney trigger replacement and drop it in if it will fit in the old trigger housing unit?

The Rifle Basix looks like it has a whole new housing unit plus trigger. The Timney is just the trigger where you take out the original, pop the new one in and set the three screws.

The old savage triggers have a longer horizontal spring and a verticle screw to hold that spring in place that runs along the trigger housing bracket. If that spring and screw are removed and a new Timney put in its place. Does the three edge pieces on the trigger housing unit (that the long spring rests on to keep in place) and screw hole just sitting there. Would that effect anything with the Timney Trigger. Because all the videos on the Timney, even the Timney Trigger videos that they produce are all replacing Accutriggers.

I'm guess Im going to just call Rifle Basix and Timney today to discuss along with a gunsmith.

Just figured I'd see if anyone out there ran into the same situation I'm in.

Much appreciated.

 

[shmtastic]

Depends on the desired outcome. I've used lots of different savage triggers. I'm not a big fan of my SSS worked Rifle Basic, nor Elftmann. I didn't try the Jard, but did try the timney. I think my savage 12 wears a timney. There's also the red blade Accutrigger, I believe gun shack sells them at a good price.

I honestly don't have much of a problem with the new factory Accutrigger, I never switched the one in my Ultralight out and it's usually the first thing I do. It's right around 2.75 lbs and crisp.

You'll never have the trigger tech feel from a Savage, it's just one of the things that holds then back a touch, but going with a 7 oz red bladed target Accutrigger really was eye opening.

 

[Caseknife]

Good idea to call and talk to the tech guys. Probably an easy drop-in, but some can be a bit confusing. Fun ones are the Model 70 triggers that need the safety fitted.