Savage cheaping out. Very disappointing.

Well, my beretta brx1 is a poly mag, along with 75% of my other mags, and I like it that way. My metal aics mag for the 25-06 is hard to load, has sharp edges, and needs to stay well away from vehicle paint.

If given the choice, ill take a poly mag over a metal these days.

I helped a friend get a mag for their savage 110 tactical or predator, and wow... savage has lots and lots of mag choices. Honestly, its time for the 110 to get a redesign, a 70 degree bolt lift, and a simple bolt removal button. I do think they are on the right track with their core series though.
 
I've never seen a "nice" savage rifle. Every one I have handled has been pretty cheap. They are functional, I always laugh when I see one of those savages with a proof research barrel though.
Have you ever handled any of the upper end target rifles? I have a Model 12 LRPV. Comes factory with an HS Precision stock, target action and trigger adjusted to 12 ounces. VERY accurate rifle and an absolute tank. Sometimes I think a lot of folk’s thinking concerning Savage rifles begins and ends with the Axis and maybe the 110 lines.
 
I have an older (2005ish) Savage American Classic Model 14 in .308. It has a beautiful walnut stock, and the checkering is clean and crisp. The bolt is smooth and it shoots under 1 moa with 150 grain Core Lokt. This rifle is in no way shape or form, a modern-day Axis, 110, trail hunter, etc.

I also have a new(er) Savage Timberline in .308. Came from the factory threaded with a muzzle break, and cerakoted. This one is rather heavy but built like a tank and sub moa as well. I'm no Savage nut swinger and have a couple dozen long guns in my safes. Tikka's, Ruger's, Bergara's, etc. These two are "nice" to me and I'll put them up against anything else I own.
I know some folks that have spent a couple grand on a "nice" rifle that won't even come close to shooting moa.
 
Have you ever handled any of the upper end target rifles? I have a Model 12 LRPV. Comes factory with an HS Precision stock, target action and trigger adjusted to 12 ounces. VERY accurate rifle and an absolute tank. Sometimes I think a lot of folk’s thinking concerning Savage rifles begins and ends with the Axis and maybe the 110 lines.
I have not, I’ve just been around some of the hunting rifles. Brush hunter, bear hunter, lightweight storm etc. nothing necessarily wrong with them they are just savages.
 
Savage has actually been an innovative company and widely copied throughout the industry. That said their current bolt action mechanicals are lagging behind. I think it's time for a reboot.
I have two 110s. One with the factory metal mag discussed here and another with MDT bottom metal for polymer AICS. Much prefer the polymer magazine. Light weight and flawless function.
 
Have had both the metal and the new plastic mags in .223 and 6 Arc in Axis rifles...... I'll take the plastic. Nothing to tweak (or needed to be tweaked) with the plastic mags and it immediately cured the feeding issue for one of the 6 Arc rifles that took multiple metal magazines to one that worked. The plastic ones fed much smoother as well.

I think you just got one with a bad spring.

Just curious... with the plastic .223 mags, have you checked to see what the max OAL that will fit in them is? I have not gotten my hands on one yet, and I'm curious. With the metal mags I can get out to 2.45"ish. I've been tempted to call Savage and order one of the polymer mags to try, but only if will allow similar OAL to load and feed properly.

To chime in a bit here on the mag issue, I bought a 5.56mm Trail Hunter Lite a couple years ago, and the original (metal) magazine that came with the gun wouldn't feed worth a crap. I started a trouble ticket on their website, and they offered to take the whole rifle back to look at it, or send me another mag to see if it would fix the feeding issues. I had them send me a new (metal) mag and it worked mostly fine, I will still get a very occasional hangup with 75gr Speer Gold Dot ammo, but it has a small blunt tip that tends to catch on the breechface right below the chamber. That is one down side of the Savage barrel/bolt design IMHO. Flat breech face.

The new mag feeds tipped bullets (ELDm's, TMKs etc), FMJ, and OTM just fine. Interestingly, the new magazine has a matte blue finish, as opposed to the glossy blue finish of the original.

After setting the old mag aside for most of the last two years, I ran across a video of how to disassemble the Savage mags on youtube earlier this spring, and that set the wheels in motion for me to tinker a bit with the original magazine. After some trial and error tweaks to the feed lips, that magazine now functions 99% of the way the new one does, even with the Gold Dot.

Everyone likes to bag on Savage rifles, and particularly on their feeding... while ignoring the fact that even the beloved Rokslide Special Tikkas sometimes struggle to feed .223 properly. IMHO, a big part of the problem is trying to feed .223 in an action that was really designed around .308 sized/length cartridges. Savage has had issues... but so have quite a few other rifles/brands. My older Savage .30-06 is a stagger feed gun, and I've had exactly ZERO issues with feeding in that gun, ever.

And don't even get me started on clunky feeding and mag issues with AICS mags... I've seen and experienced enough of that, that I hesitate to use it on a hunting gun

That said... I am looking at "building" a custom .223 or .223 AI gun... and It'll probably end up fed from AICS mags of some sort. I wish MDT made a 5rd .223 metal body mag that was close to flush in their bottom metal.
 
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