S2H Scope Interest

Interest in purchasing a S2H 3-18x44 rifle scope (if passes durability testing)


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You don't read very well nor do you listen to the podcast. Just because you say something won't make it manifest for you. I don't have the crayons nor the paper to explain it to you but ZT doesn't excessively own the rights to this model scope as S2H and ZT both invested in the design of this scope. This is a combined effort collaboration. Stop being such a contrarian. You are basically telling @Ryan Avery and @Unknown Munitions that this isn't really their scope.

Jay
Let’s just step back and use some common business sense. I am saying this MIL THLR reticle S2H scope will be what it is. But if you are trying to convince me that Ryan and Form, just out of principle, will prevent ZT from applying the reliable drop proof design to other models or moa scopes, you are bat shit crazy. ZT is in this to make money. Also, wouldn’t this be what everyone wants? Companies like ZT to push create some competition with NF and Trijicon and SWFA? Why are people so passionate about MIL vs MOA? I shoot both and kill a bunch of critters with both.
 
Forget all of that. Make a scope without internal adjustments at all and put the adjustments in the mounts with no graduations and we all have to figure it out for ourselves by screwing windage screws like the old Redfield mounts. When those are set we can lock the windage parts with set screws and hold wind in the reticle. Elevation should be one knob and one side of the mount is marked in mils, the other side is marked in moas.

(Once upon a time I've done the math to spitball how far to move a Redfield windage rear ring - don't really want to again)

I almost raised that point the other day but feared it would sound like trolling.

Dang. Missed opportunity. :(
There is no one on here that beleives you aren't always trolling, as they scroll past your many paragraphs!
And you haven't missed too many opportunities- you have exercised 1389 of them in 8 months. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
There is no one on here that beleives you aren't always trolling, as they scroll past your many paragraphs!
And you haven't missed too many opportunities- you have exercised 1389 of them in 8 months. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
I’m particularly glad that these other posters were here today to read that post......it expresses a courage little seen in this day and age.
 
Let’s just step back and use some common business sense. I am saying this MIL THLR reticle S2H scope will be what it is. But if you are trying to convince me that Ryan and Form, just out of principle, will prevent ZT from applying the reliable drop proof design to other models or moa scopes, you are bat shit crazy. ZT is in this to make money. Also, wouldn’t this be what everyone wants? Companies like ZT to push create some competition with NF and Trijicon and SWFA? Why are people so passionate about MIL vs MOA? I shoot both and kill a bunch of critters with both.

ahhhh...ok.

Well, that's really two different conversations.

Sure, I would agree that Zero Tech can probably use the general designs of the scope body itself. I mean, they could have at any time before now also.....along with any other company that LOW builds scopes for.

Their is already multiple scopes on the market that LOW builds, that other companies sell, that are reliably drop proof, with at least somewhat similar specs, in both MIL and MOA reticles of different kinds. So yeah, I'm sure if they choose they can build a Zero Tech scope, of similar specs, with some kind of MOA reticle, and compete with everyone else in that general space. That isn't anything hugely unique, and nothing has ever stopped them from doing this.

But to be pretty obvious, what everyone is talking about here, is the S2H version of the scope with the modified THLR reticle. That is the "project". What everyone is saying, is that the chances of seeing a scope with S2H badging, with the modified THLR reticle in MOA is basically nothing......

The reticle makes the scope......without the reticle, it still appears to be a good scope at a good price, but its nothing hugely unique.

Maybe we will find out at some point, but I would guess it was some kind of concession to just have the "standard" MIL reticle also in the scope.
 
You are clueless. ZeroTech won’t be doing any such thing unless we say so.
Apparently one of us is clueless but it isn’t me…I guess the guys investing the money didnt loop you in chief. Apparently they are going to add an MOA version quickly. From Unknown Munitions post on the other thread:

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Apparently one of us is clueless but it isn’t me…I guess the guys investing the money didnt loop you in chief. Apparently they are going to add an MOA version quickly. From Unknown Munitions post on the other thread:

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Don’t antagonize the guy who’s putting in the thankless shitty work to make things better for us.

Anyway your point is non-responsive. The UM post is about the circumstances where they’d tell ZT to make an MOA. Form’s point is that ZT won’t be doing anything like without S2H agreement, and that still stands.
 
Don’t antagonize the guy who’s putting in the thankless shitty work to make things better for us.

Anyway your point is non-responsive. The UM post is about the circumstances where they’d tell ZT to make an MOA. Form’s point is that ZT won’t be doing anything like without S2H agreement, and that still stands.
Did you not read this post? MOA was a concern Jake had and they agreed to roll one out QUICKLY after the first couple runs. Its a done deal according to Jake bud.
 
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