S2H Scope Interest

[Q_Sertorius]

If you’re gonna do it by seniority or post count instead of payment made, go ahead and count me out

This thread is a free-fire zone of memes and bad ideas. That suggestion was in no way official or serious.

 

[waspocrew]

Was that an actual thought or just bs.
?

No, just bs.

 

[Idhunter777]

With all the interest in the "Would you buy this scope" thread, thought I would help consolidate interest.

Specs as I understand it today for the S2H rifle scope:
S2H x Zero Tech collaboration; made by LOW
3-18x44 30mm tube
25 oz, 12.5" long
FFP
Simplified THLR reticle with illuminated center dot (button push)
Low turrets with 29 mils available, 10 mils per rotation, Zero stop on elevation
Capped windage
Initial offering price = $999


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With all the interest in the "Would you buy this scope" thread, thought I would help consolidate interest.

Specs as I understand it today for the S2H rifle scope:
S2H x Zero Tech collaboration; made by LOW
3-18x44 30mm tube
25 oz, 12.5" long
FFP
Simplified THLR reticle with illuminated center dot (button push)
Low turrets with 29 mils available, 10 mils per rotation, Zero stop on elevation
Capped windage
Initial offering price = $999


View attachment 1014446

I’ll let some other guys and gals beta test this before I get one down the road

 

[Wrench]

I'm still trying to understand what problem the thlr reticle solves. It parks a whole bunch of reticle in my preferred holdover and shot spotting area. I get that it's easy to see in the low power....but so is a whole schnagety of others.

 

[ckt3]

This thread is a free-fire zone of memes and bad ideas. That suggestion was in no way official or serious.

You forgot it is also a record of incontrovertible proof on the superiority of MOA over mils and the definitive resolution of this debate once and for all.

 

[nm.otter]

they know how to make a good scope and won’t apply that knowledge to the rest of their line.

They don't make anything.
They contract with ODMs who design and produce things to a specified set of standards at a quoted price -- and appear to have lucked out on the RS 1.2, which met standards they did not actually specify.

 

[Jake Larsen]

I'm still trying to understand what problem the thlr reticle solves. It parks a whole bunch of reticle in my preferred holdover and shot spotting area. I get that it's easy to see in the low power....but so is a whole schnagety of others.

Have you seen the discussion on this in the other thread? The last 20-30ish posts has some back and forth. Specifically post 3428 compiles a bunch of info on the THLR. Seems better to point you over there than re-hash the entire discussion here.


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[Q_Sertorius]

You forgot it is also a record of incontrovertible proof on the superiority of MOA over mils and the definitive resolution of this debate once and for all.

Like I said, "bad ideas."

 

[Jmort1754]

Have they posted timeframe

 

[NDHUNTER24]

Have they posted timeframe

They haven't said when they will put in the first order. It could be 1 week or 1 month or longer. There still testing durability. But once they feel confident and after they put in the order, it will take 6 months.

 

[AZ Gator]

Have they posted timeframe

6 months to over a year.

 

[Chris in TN]

Like I said, "bad ideas."

Like only offering the scope with an mrad reticle. Or ZT offering a second reticle choice that is also in .mils with no explanation of what purpose it is to serve.

Page 22 and nobody has yet commented on the chance of getting a moa version of the THLR reticle, or any workable moa reticle at all. A guy on page one raises the question of getting a moa version and 20 pages later nobody has bothered to even address that.

When I was a kid - like maybe 20 or so - we were family friends with some people that owned a little small town destination type restaurant. I asked the owner a simple question one night - I don't remember what it even was but it may have been a request for a bottle of hot sauce, to put on fried catfish - and instead of just saying 'yes or no' she launched into an explanation on how the way she cooked and served it was better and I should just eat it that way. Guess who never ate there again? If you're going to be in a business that depends on sales, you can have opinions and even convictions, but learn to categorize those. If people ask you a sales question, give them a sales answer. Even if it is 'no'.

Looking at ZT's website (which I will admit I hadn't ever done until a couple weeks ago) they seem to be pretty heavily invested in moa reticle sales. It baffles me that they'd set that completely aside for this one scope and only offer it in mrads. But if that's the case, maybe the people who have time to browbeat us could take a moment to just say 'yes' or 'no'.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Like only offering the scope with an mrad reticle. Or ZT offering a second reticle choice that is also in .mils with no explanation of what purpose it is to serve.

Page 22 and nobody has yet commented on the chance of getting a moa version of the THLR reticle, or any workable moa reticle at all. A guy on page one raises the question of getting a moa version and 20 pages later nobody has bothered to even address that.

When I was a kid - like maybe 20 or so - we were family friends with some people that owned a little small town destination type restaurant. I asked the owner a simple question one night - I don't remember what it even was but it may have been a request for a bottle of hot sauce, to put on fried catfish - and instead of just saying 'yes or no' she launched into an explanation on how the way she cooked and served it was better and I should just eat it that way. Guess who never ate there again? If you're going to be in a business that depends on sales, you can have opinions and even convictions, but learn to categorize those. If people ask you a sales question, give them a sales answer. Even if it is 'no'.

Looking at ZT's website (which I will admit I hadn't ever done until a couple weeks ago) they seem to be pretty heavily invested in moa reticle sales. It baffles me that they'd set that completely aside for this one scope and only offer it in mrads. But if that's the case, maybe the people who have time to browbeat us could take a moment to just say 'yes' or 'no'.

“No.”

 

[Marbles]

Like only offering the scope with an mrad reticle. Or ZT offering a second reticle choice that is also in .mils with no explanation of what purpose it is to serve.

Page 22 and nobody has yet commented on the chance of getting a moa version of the THLR reticle, or any workable moa reticle at all. A guy on page one raises the question of getting a moa version and 20 pages later nobody has bothered to even address that.

When I was a kid - like maybe 20 or so - we were family friends with some people that owned a little small town destination type restaurant. I asked the owner a simple question one night - I don't remember what it even was but it may have been a request for a bottle of hot sauce, to put on fried catfish - and instead of just saying 'yes or no' she launched into an explanation on how the way she cooked and served it was better and I should just eat it that way. Guess who never ate there again? If you're going to be in a business that depends on sales, you can have opinions and even convictions, but learn to categorize those. If people ask you a sales question, give them a sales answer. Even if it is 'no'.

Looking at ZT's website (which I will admit I hadn't ever done until a couple weeks ago) they seem to be pretty heavily invested in moa reticle sales. It baffles me that they'd set that completely aside for this one scope and only offer it in mrads. But if that's the case, maybe the people who have time to browbeat us could take a moment to just say 'yes' or 'no'.

There is a more official thread that has hashed most of this out.

S2H is driving this development and my understanding is they see no value in MOA. Zero Tech is just the company that was willing to get them access to LOW as LOW will not work with new optics companies.

S2H is about making people better at shooting, not trying to move junk products just because the public wants it. Their are tones of companies more interested in trying to predict demand than simply creating good products and I appreciate S2H's approach.

@Ryan Avery or @Formidilosus may desire to correct me if my impressions are wrong.

 

[Gstew1930]

Like only offering the scope with an mrad reticle. Or ZT offering a second reticle choice that is also in .mils with no explanation of what purpose it is to serve.

Page 22 and nobody has yet commented on the chance of getting a moa version of the THLR reticle, or any workable moa reticle at all. A guy on page one raises the question of getting a moa version and 20 pages later nobody has bothered to even address that.

When I was a kid - like maybe 20 or so - we were family friends with some people that owned a little small town destination type restaurant. I asked the owner a simple question one night - I don't remember what it even was but it may have been a request for a bottle of hot sauce, to put on fried catfish - and instead of just saying 'yes or no' she launched into an explanation on how the way she cooked and served it was better and I should just eat it that way. Guess who never ate there again? If you're going to be in a business that depends on sales, you can have opinions and even convictions, but learn to categorize those. If people ask you a sales question, give them a sales answer. Even if it is 'no'.

Looking at ZT's website (which I will admit I hadn't ever done until a couple weeks ago) they seem to be pretty heavily invested in moa reticle sales. It baffles me that they'd set that completely aside for this one scope and only offer it in mrads. But if that's the case, maybe the people who have time to browbeat us could take a moment to just say 'yes' or 'no'.

If you want the MOA version why not look at the revic? Its going to be more expensive but thats as close as youre going to get i think

 

[cuerro viejo]

Like only offering the scope with an mrad reticle. Or ZT offering a second reticle choice that is also in .mils with no explanation of what purpose it is to serve.

Page 22 and nobody has yet commented on the chance of getting a moa version of the THLR reticle, or any workable moa reticle at all. A guy on page one raises the question of getting a moa version and 20 pages later nobody has bothered to even address that.

When I was a kid - like maybe 20 or so - we were family friends with some people that owned a little small town destination type restaurant. I asked the owner a simple question one night - I don't remember what it even was but it may have been a request for a bottle of hot sauce, to put on fried catfish - and instead of just saying 'yes or no' she launched into an explanation on how the way she cooked and served it was better and I should just eat it that way. Guess who never ate there again? If you're going to be in a business that depends on sales, you can have opinions and even convictions, but learn to categorize those. If people ask you a sales question, give them a sales answer. Even if it is 'no'.

Looking at ZT's website (which I will admit I hadn't ever done until a couple weeks ago) they seem to be pretty heavily invested in moa reticle sales. It baffles me that they'd set that completely aside for this one scope and only offer it in mrads. But if that's the case, maybe the people who have time to browbeat us could take a moment to just say 'yes' or 'no'.

No

I’m not sure what planet you are on but it’s not the same ones ording this scope.

First ZT is essentially just wholeseller/importer for S2H. I doubt you will be able to buy it direct from ZT. If you want an MOA version in any capacity, I’m sure ZT will make the same agreement with you as S2H did. ZT has zero risk in this venture I’m sure. It’s all S2H capital,

 

[WyldGoose]

Can S2H just make a MOA version called the “Fried Catfish With A Very Particular Kind Of Hot Sauce” so Chris in TN will eat it and be happy?

 

[Shortschaf]

Post in thread 'Would you buy this scope?'

Jan 16, 2026

I’ve searched and watched the thread but not seen a response on if this will be offered in MOA. Would love to know as I think about what to work on during the off season

No on the MOA

• Ryan Avery

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[Chris in TN]

Post in thread 'Would you buy this scope?'

Jan 16, 2026

I’ve searched and watched the thread but not seen a response on if this will be offered in MOA. Would love to know as I think about what to work on during the off season

No on the MOA

• Ryan Avery

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Thank you.

 

[prm]

Like only offering the scope with an mrad reticle. Or ZT offering a second reticle choice that is also in .mils with no explanation of what purpose it is to serve.

Page 22 and nobody has yet commented on the chance of getting a moa version of the THLR reticle, or any workable moa reticle at all. A guy on page one raises the question of getting a moa version and 20 pages later nobody has bothered to even address that.

When I was a kid - like maybe 20 or so - we were family friends with some people that owned a little small town destination type restaurant. I asked the owner a simple question one night - I don't remember what it even was but it may have been a request for a bottle of hot sauce, to put on fried catfish - and instead of just saying 'yes or no' she launched into an explanation on how the way she cooked and served it was better and I should just eat it that way. Guess who never ate there again? If you're going to be in a business that depends on sales, you can have opinions and even convictions, but learn to categorize those. If people ask you a sales question, give them a sales answer. Even if it is 'no'.

Looking at ZT's website (which I will admit I hadn't ever done until a couple weeks ago) they seem to be pretty heavily invested in moa reticle sales. It baffles me that they'd set that completely aside for this one scope and only offer it in mrads. But if that's the case, maybe the people who have time to browbeat us could take a moment to just say 'yes' or 'no'.

Neither this scope, nor any scope, is all things to all people. If you must have a MOA reticle, go buy a scope with an MOA reticle. As you’ve noted, there are many to choose from. This is not it. Just move on.